Where can I get a 9mm snubby revolver?

I havn't seen the smith but the ruger is nice. It uses moon clips to hold the cartridge rims. The one I had was a good shooter. I think I saw it in the current ruger catalog so it's still in production.
Also there were revolvers in a rimmed 9mm made for a while. I don't know what ever became of that idea but the ammo has to be pretty scarce.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CassandraComplex:
I am looking for a 9mm snubby revolver. What models are out there that fit that catagory?

thanks![/quote]

I've seen the S&W. Nice revolver, but I don't think they're being manufactured any longer.

Is the 9mm any good out of a 2½" barrel?



[This message has been edited by Ezeckial (edited February 19, 2000).]
 
Not sure about Ruger, but S&W cancelled due to lack of interest. The rimmed 9mm, called 9mm Federal, was chambered only in a Charter Arms revolver that is long gone (it could fire rimless 9mm, but not extract). The S&W, the Charter and the 9mm Federal ammo are collectors' items today. The Israelis made/modified an S&W Model 10 type for 9mm with half moon clips, but that gun is very rare and almost never seen here.

It is fairly easy to modify any .38 Special revolver to use 9mm with moon clips (where does one get 9mm clips, BTW?). Accuracy will be good or at least adequate. But it will not be possible to again shoot .38 in the gun unless one has an extra cylinder.

Jim
 
I just picked up a S & W Model 547 9mm revolver last week at a local shop. It has that funky extractor that negates the use of moon clips. I was told it was unfired, and after eyeballing it real close, I believe the guy. However, my info is that production ceased in '85. This is the first 547 I've seen in three years of causual searching. I'd like to find out more about it like production numbers and stuff before and if I fire it. But until then, oh sweet anticipation...

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johnnyb
 
johnybravo, the 547 was made by S&W for a French security force. The French had sent some people over to train with the FBI around 1982 or 83 and saw all the FBI agents were shooting 3" mod 13's. The head of the security force was so taken by the pistol that he approached S&W to make them for his agency. The 9mm chambering was a requirement under French law so S&W developed the 547.
 
I want the 9mm snubby because the 9mm is a superior and more efficient round than the .38 special, or even a .357 mag out of a short barrel.
Out of a short barrel, a 9mm will greatly surpass the power of a .38 and pretty much equal a .357 without all the flash and kick. the .357 loses so much out of the short barrel that it is hardly better than a 9mm. Not only that, but the 9mm is a shorter cartridge than both of the others. The .38 special is so long for no good reason at all. Why would I want a cylander that is excessively long on a gun that is supposed to be compact?
Hence, I think the 9mm is the best option. It is the shortest gun and it puts out the most power for the size.
 
This is what I want:

a 942 from SW. They once told me the gun
couldn't take it. Well, do some research.
Maybe a Ti frame could.

Also, adopt some like the Medusa or 547
cylinder to dump the moon clips.

I'd buy one. Many 9mm shooters carry 642s
or 342s. It would be a hit.

Figure it out and do it - SW.
 
CassandraComplex, a few corrections to your conclusions:
-S&W 940 frame is the same size as the rest of the J frames. Even the cylinder is not shorter (like it is on .45acp N frame, compared to .45lc N frame). The chambers are just reamed shorter for 9mm, so bullet has more travel before it engages the forcing cone. In fact, I guy that bought mine, had the chambers reamed out to be able to shoot 9X23, 9X21 and 9X19.
-9mm is more efective than .38spl. Due to higher pressure and shorter case, it does much better out of shorter bbls. It's not as effective as .357, but close, due to shorter case. It recoils less than .357, but the recoil is still stiff.
Glen:
-Moon clips are a good thing, less bulk than a speed loader. Just be carefull not to bend them.
Btw, I want an L frame in 10mm. Could shoot .40 out of it too.
 
For 940 owners, how well do the moon clips work? They seem to hold the cartridges somewhat loosely, and I wonder whether they ever come apart in pockets?

I also wonder whether it is safe to fire a 940 without the clips? The cartridges seem to headspace on the case mouth, but they do so deeper in the cylinder than with the moon clips. (Actually, it seems more like the question here would be whether the firing pin is deep enough to reliably fire non-clipped cases...)

JNewell
 
i want a 10mm L-frame too...*sigh* S&W r u listening? a 4 or 5" barrel would be ideal.

i own a 940 and it is a fine little snubby. they came in 2" and 3" barrels. i have the 2" barrel. great thing about the design is that it is snag free. recoil is not much more than a .38SPL +P out of an Airweight snubby. pretty accurate too.

as for reloading, it is pretty quick with practice. the rounds fall into the cylinder very quickly and with little trouble. great thing about the 9mm cases is that extraction is positive due to the short case. i have fired rounds without the moonclips, and the 940 works reliably. my moonclips hold rounds firmly in place...none have come loose spilling rounds.

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Mik

<A HREF="http://"http://marina.fortunecity.com/harbour/347/10mm.html"" TARGET=_blank>my 10mm page</A>
 
The used section of your gunstore. They may also have the old Ruger Speed Six which came with fixed sights and, to your liking, in 9mm.
 
The 940 is a handful. We chrono'd some loads in a 2" 940 9mm and a 3" mod 65 .357 mag. The ONLY load that beat the 115gr CorBon was the 125 gr non-hydrashock JHP and it was by less than 100 fps. Had we had a 640-1 available I think the 9mm would have been faster than any .357. The .357 needs that long barrel to take advantage of the powder capacity of the case and the slow burning powder. The 9mm easily outperforms any .38 spec even the +P+ 110gr Treasury load when fired from a 2" barrel. The 110gr load really smokes from an 8 3/8" barrel though.
 
All other issues aside a 9mm revolver makes a lot of sense for cost and allowing ONE caliber for some shooters. I would buy one with no regrets if I saw one. The gun rags hated those guns. Never got a good review as I recall. Don't forget the Federal 9mm Magnum I think they called it. A rimmed 9mm. What a turkey that was. I still have a box of that ammo here someplace.
A 9mm revolver is cheap to shoot and FUN. I love both my revolvers and semi auto's and have a S&W Model 625 3 inch revolver in .45 ACP. The 9mm revolver has a place, but few shooters put it in one and got into a debate of 9mm vs .38 special. What a sad way for the 9mm revolver to die. It deserved better, and I'm not a big 9mm fan.
 
I owned a 3 inch S&W 547 in 1985. I still kick myself for trading it off (for one of those high capacity autos). The unusual ejector worked very well and the gun shot to point of aim with 115 gr. bullets. I think it is a much better design than having to rely on moon clips. HKS even made a speedloader for it.

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