when having one in the pipe

Jesse H

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When I've got a chambered round in my HS2000, what is being "stressed."

Is it bad for any of the parts to leave it cocked for long periods of time? Long meaning 1 or 2 weeks between visits to the range? I plan on using this as my carry/hd gun once I get my CHL.

Would it also reduce the reliability of the brass being ejected if I'm always chambering it (the same round) when I've got it holstered and out and about...then clear it for the nightstand?

hope this makes sense,
thanks!
 
My 1911 has been cocked and locked for about two months and I haven't lost any faith in it. You should be fine. As for ejecting and reloading a round, make sure you are feeding it from the magazine. As for the condition of the brass, your bigger concern will be overall length. Make sure the bullet doesn't get rammed into the case. That could increase pressure.
 
HS2000 ... Condition 1?

Well, like a Glock, the HS200 is only "half cocked" when there's one up the pipe. It's designed for that, so there shouldn't be any problem.

My carry gun is a 1911, and it's been cocked & locked for four years now, and it still goes "BANG" when I want it to. I do replace the magazine springs every year though.


Yr. Obt. Svnt.
 
We, and I include myself, shouldn't worry so much about springs. They are one of the most reliable mechanical devices you can find. Unless a good quality spring is stressed beyond its design point, it will function as designed for a loooong time. Springs used in firearms are almost without exception of excellent quality.

Look around your home and think about all the hundreds of springs you have that work flawlessly and that you never worry about.
 
If it loses its tension, its a wire, not a spring.

Or so I've heard. The part that is under tension is the hammer spring. Don't worry about it. If you ever need a new one, you will observe an increasing number of light hammer strikes not igniting primers.

Regards.
 
Springs don't have calendars. They don't all of a sudden say, "gee, I have been under stress for 3 days, 16 hours, four minutes and 13 seconds, it is time to collapse and give up."

When springs do lose tension (and good springs do not), it happens over a period of time and checking on them every six months or so should be fine.

I have left GI M1911A1's cocked and with loaded mags for 10 years with NO problems. They work when I want them to. I have left one Norinco cocked and mag loaded for 3 years with no problems. Other 1911 clones I can't say, as I have not left them that way for long periods.

Jim
 
We have some VERY cheap springs in the door hinges of our kitchen cabinets that are working as well as new -- for these last 34 years and they stay under tension.

I suspect that the quality level of springs in your firearm are greatly superior to those in my kitchen cabinet hinges. :)
 
But how about the mags???

i have been advised not to load the magazines fully, maybe 2/3 or 1/2 only, in order to prevent the mag spring from losing its tension after sometime. Is this idea sound? :confused:
 
Posted by Pampers
Well, like a Glock, the HS200 is only "half cocked" when there's one up the pipe. It's designed for that, so there shouldn't be any problem.

Sorry Pampers,
But that is not 100% correct. The HS2000 is a true Single Action Only Pistol. The trigger pull does not finish cocking the stricker like the Glock. That's why it's trigger is lighter and breaks cleaner than the Glock. This is one of the reasons why it was designed with a 1911 style grip safety.

Jesse,
The pistol was designed for combat use, so I'm sure the designers figured that it would be carried for a long time with one in the pipe. Unlike other pistols, it was also designed to be safely "dry fired". Great pistol. I can't wait to add a .40 to my 9mm (if they ever come out).
 
My P99 QA, like a Glock, is always half-cocked and has been so for almost a year now, with no signs of problems. I wouldn't worry about it. Keep an eye on it for a year and see what happens, then report back to us with what you find.
 
The mag spring wearing out is probably only true of really old mags from the 1920's or 30's,maybe even into wwII, but todays springs in the mag should be fine. I have several that I keep loaded all the time and have been for the last 10 years. Well except for switching out ammo at the range. None have had a ftf, or a ftf of the last round like you would expect from weak springs. Though more than likely your first sign will be failure to lock back on an empty.
 
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