What's with the sudden focus on TX & death penalty?

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Has anyone else noticed? The media seems to be devoting more & more attention lately to the death penalty, and Texas' DP record. They are citing "the growing debate" over the DP, etc.

Is it just me, or are they really that transparent? Is there actually something to this, or are they groping for something to use against GWB? Are they "growing" the debate themselves?
 
Jim is correct. Gore is getting hammered in the polls by "dubya". The libs are looking for anything that they can use to try knock GW down. This will not be any more successful than any of their other attempts. This guy is a dirt bag and is getting what he deserves.

Rusty
 
This is a point that has been taken as an attempt to make GWB look bad . As if he is murdering someone like this POS murdered his victim . These people look to discredit an opponent to as many people as possible using whatever means they can . He has the power over life and death ( as they say ) and he chooses death . It's not his call anyway but that escapes their logic .
If it's not this POS it would be another . If GWB's 5 th cousin beat his wife they would play it as if GWB held her arms as it happened . The truth comes out AFTER the election . Remember the "Retroactive Tax " when Klinton first took office ? Too bad there was no provision for a " Retroactive Vote ." Where were these people 6 mos. ago ? Where will they be after the POS is dead ? Looking for another liberal cause so as to have an excuse for disrupting a process that they don't even understand .This is his chance to show power as a leader and not be a wimp like Klinton or Gore . " Fear not 100 lions led by a Sheep , but fear 100 Sheep led by a Lion ." When Custer led the charges to defend Wash. D.C. do you think his guys weren't fired up ? It's not who you admire or respect but rather " Who would you follow into the bowels of Hell with full knowledge that they will die if they must to lead you back out when it's all over ?" HE DA MAAAAAANNNN !!!

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This, like the sudden interest in air pollution in Texas, is part of the predicted anti-Bush campaign by the major news media. Watch for more of the same over the next four months, particularly if The Evil Al Gore doesn't start rising in the polls soon. Unfortunately, I still believe what I posted here several months ago: That pro-Gore media bias will help him win the election.
 
MILITIA MARCHES ON HOUSTON
MAKING THE LEFT FEEL WARM AND FUZZY http://etherzone.com/mors062700.html
By: Chuck Morse


Co-founder of the Black Panthers...
Bobby Seale
An organized, trained, uniformed, and heavily armed Militia marched through the streets of Houston, Fri. June 16, reports the Houston
Chronicle, and yet, there has been little national media coverage, no discussion from the usual commentators and savants, and no comment
from the White House. The gun control lobby, the anti-militia crowd, and their assorted left-wing camp followers have been silent. Even though
this private army was reported to be carrying AK-47s, which have been illegal in the U.S. since the 1930’s, the Houston DA’s office doesn’t
expect to file charges. Far less evidence of illegal weaponry resulted in the Waco home invasion and subsequent holocaust in April 1993. Why
the double standard?

This militia was part of the "New" Black Panther Party. Along with the National Black United Front and the New Black Muslim Movement, the
Panthers were "protesting"

outside the George R. Brown Convention Center while the State GOP was being addressed by Laura Bush, wife of the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee. The
issue, which prompted the Panthers to don their jack-boots and black uniforms, was the death penalty, particularly as it pertains to the scheduled execution of convicted
murderer Gary Graham. That the Black Panthers would advocate against the death penalty, given their own well-documented history of executions against "traitors", is in and
of itself the epitome of hypocrisy.

Panther leader Quanell X was quoted by the Chronicle as saying "We believe we have a divine duty and a divine obligation to stand up for any Black man on Death Row about
to be executed…for a crime he didn’t commit". We all have an obligation to stand up for any innocent man on death row, however, Quanell X doesn’t elaborate on why he
thinks Graham, convicted of murder by a jury of his peers, is innocent. The question of guilt or innocence, particularly in capitol offences demands high levels of proof in all
cases. Such standards would end the implied charges of racism. As head of the Black Panthers, Quanell X inherits the mantle of a group whose opposition to the death
penalty is entirely dialectical rather than fundamental. There was other non-militia groups protesting outside the convention.

The Black Panthers, under the leadership of Marxist revolutionaries Eldridge Cleaver, Bobby Seale and Huey Newton, was a violent anti-American gang of thugs that regularly
engaged in shootings, bombings, extortion, racketeering, crime and subversion. The only difference between them and the Mafia, or the crips and bloods, is that they
assumed a Marxist posture thus winning the adulation of much of the self-hating liberal establishment. Their public utterances and actions present a record of advocating the
replacement of the U.S.Government with a "peoples" republic. Their method was to instigate race war. David Horowitz, author of Radical Son, worked with the Black Panthers
in the 1970’s and provides excellent research on their background.

Unlike the demonized "right wing" militias, which, for the most part, have maintained a record of law abidance and support for the Constitution, the Black Panthers, violent
criminals, make the left feel all warm and fuzzy. Since they mouth Marxist "ideals" they have received large foundation grants and get invited to dinner parties at the
penthouses of such "radical chic" figures as composer Leonard Bernstein. The Black Panthers have been celebrated in books and movies and have been held up as Black
Leaders by our establishment press. The introduction of violence, and in the case of Cleaver, rape, as a legitimate means of effecting social change has been their
contribution to our American way of life.

Abolition of the death penalty is emerging as the main weapon in the desperate presidential campaign of Vice President Al Gore. Never mind that then Governor and
Presidential candidate Bill Clinton refused to grant clemency to death row inmate Rickey Ray Rector, a mentally impaired man who was unable to comprehend his imminent
demise. Rector, as he was being led to his execution, left the pecan pie from his last dinner under the bed to be eaten later. Never mind that Bush’s predecessor, liberal
Governor Ann Richards presided over several executions.

The death penalty serves several functions for Gore’s left-wing core constituency. The big lie is that Bush is "mean-spirited" by signing on to it and that he’s "racist" because of
the fact that a high percentage of death row inmates are Black. The death penalty is a sensitive and highly complex issue that deserves careful study by respective State
governments. Advances in criminal science and the development of techniques such as DNA evidence will hopefully lead to a higher level of proof in capital offences. In the
mean time, lets not let the hypocritical left demagogue the issue.
 
Don't be too quick to see a liberal media conspiracy under every bush. ;) Recent death penalty revisits were sparked by the DNA phenomenon, with the most dramatic reporting in the Chicago Tribune last year that caused the guv of Illinois to suspend executions pending "further review" of the statute and legal system. The Trib series showed a pattern of judicial abuses in capital cases, confirming suspicions that po' folk generally get bad justice from po' lawyers -- in contrast to rich folk with rich lawyers.

The same Trib team then looked at Texas. Hey, why not? Dubya is guv there and is running for prez. You can bet your mortgage that if Gore were a guv somewhere, that state would be getting the treatment, too. The media may lean liberal, but it's too blood thirsty to turn down a good hunt.

Now, here's how I see the potential for this extra scrutiny to he'p Dubya: He simply stand tall. I haven't read the Trib stuff on Texas (ran about a week ago), but if it were as eye-opening as the stuff on Illinois was, Dubya could eaily suspend executions until the smoke cleared. I suspect the Trib's Texas series didn't have much meat. So all Dubya's got to do to maintain his presidential bearing is defer to the obvious: Look at any DNA evidence that might mitigate or exonerate and make damned sure the on-deck death row guy had a trial that can't be picked apart by a couple of newspaper reporters. That is, did the defense drop the ball, was the judge clearly prejudicial, did the guy get a fair trial?

Dubya's stature can grow if he doesn't waffle -- or at least not look like he's waffling.

Meanwhile, the Justice Dept. wants to appoint a special prosecutor to look at Gore. That will be fun. Gore has pissed off the black voters by passing over his very popular black campaign manager to be campaign chairman, choosing instead Mayor Daley's brother (wow, what political connotations reverberate there!). Meanwhile Gore's still studying how to become an alpha man, or at least project that image in the campaign. He's a fool, and every day more and more people can see that. They don't care about his stands on issues, they just don't trust the grinning doofus. If Dubya continues plugging along and hanging onto his dignity, the presidency is his for the taking. That will buy us at least another four years.

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Idiot, n. A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. -- Ambrose Bierce
 
" carrying AK-47s, which have been illegal in the U.S, since the 1930s"???????
AK47s? In the 30s? ??????
crankshaft
nralife, goa, jpfo, fcsa, smvfm
 
Remember, the media and other socialist elites have had a problem with the death penalty for a while now. We have seen "death watches" televised from Huntsville since before Bush was even a front runner.
 
The Gore campaign is cratering. Their frantic efforts at changing Gore's image is an attempt to stop the slide in the polls. It was inevitable the media would rush to Gore's aid. Since the end of the primaries Gore's campaign has been on the defensive, having to respond to to Dubya's moves.

This focus on the death penalty is a coordination by the White House in an effort to put Dubya on the defense. It will not end. Campaign financing is not the issue the media wanted (so they could control the campaign's agenda) so capital punishment is the choice. Why???? Because between now and the election Texas is scheduled to execute one prisoner per week on average. The issue has legs apart from the media. It is too tempting a target to ignore.

I predict Dubya will be pounded unmercifully with this issue. It is the media's attempt to define GW, something he said he would not allow.



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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater--1964
 
Waitone -- You can't have it both ways, bud. Either the White House and the media are controlling this issue in concert, or it has legs of its own. Which is it?

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Idiot, n. A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. -- Ambrose Bierce
 
Just my $0.02--

IMHO the spotlight is on Texas because of Bush's candidacy. Personally, I believe the media groupthink is to look for ways to embarrass or discredit Bush. I figure that the groupthinkers fear him because he's conservative and hate him because he's a decent man, which they are not. But so far he's responded well to the glare and pressure.

BTW, "The media may lean liberal, but it's too bloodthirsty to turn down a good hunt." Well said, Mr. Kent! I think the media have little if any hesitation about turning on their "friends" when the smell of blood is in the air. If it bleeds, it leads ... figuratively as well as literally.



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I couldn't believe all the media attention this was getting. I even saw coverage on BBC. I'm not an overwhelming fan of GW, but he handled the issue very well.

It took 19 years to kill this POS :(. This isn't my Grandpa's Texas anymore :(.

Still much better than Kali. I saw an interview with ol' Gray Davis. They've only put down 8 in the last 24 years, but they've got 520+ inmates who were sentenced to die by a jury of thier peers. Someone isn't doing thier job, ya know, upholding the will of the people, and the law of the land and all. Meanwhile taxpayers pick up the tab.

I have a suggestion to help alleviate some of the burden the death row inmates place on society - Pay-per-view executions - I've got my $49.99 ;)
 
Well, I've watched and re-watched Bush's statements about the execution. Straight to the point and no waffling. 19 years of appeals, 33 judges. I may be wrong (I often am), but I think his steadfast position last night may have helped his image with a lot of people. And Gore will have to use surrogates to attack Bush on the death penalty, since Gore is on record as favoring it. Of course, Gore can change his stance as he has on so many other issues, including RKBA.

Dick
 
The public has the attention span of a golden retriever, and we should be grateful, since they've almost stopped talking about guns.
 
Here is an interesting conundrum:

In Providence, RI, five guys decided they would steal a car and did so by kidnapping and killing, execution style, the two occupants. they then continued to be stupid and were popped the next day driving the car with the gun still in it.

Since RI has no death penalty because the legislature is too CS to enact one, AG Sheldon Whitehouse is attempting to get these guys tried on the federal crime of carjacking so they wil;l get the death penalty. Here's the rub ...

If they do this, these guys will be sitting on federal death row with Bush or Gore in the white House. Will the criticism of Bush continue to follow him to the White House if he is elected for persons sentenced to death under the Clinton Admniistration just as he has been plagued by Ann Richards cases?

On top of that, if he is not elected, will Al Gore reprieve these guys as he has been criticising Bush for not doing in Texas?

Just one of those things that make you go "Hmmmmmm".

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Gun Control: The proposition that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own panty hose, is more acceptable than allowing that same woman to defend herself with a firearm.
 
The Media biased? You guys are a bunch of kooks.

:-)

This is the most blatant case of "creating" an issue I have ever seen. The funny thing about it is that Al Gore won't dare say a word. He knows he is on the losing side of this issue. He lets his henchmen do the talking. Gutless, lying whimp.

Liberals have to lie about what they truly believe to get what they truly want.

[This message has been edited by MountainGun44 (edited June 26, 2000).]
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nebob:
If you believe the media, there are no guilty
people in prison.
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If you ask most inmates in prison, they'll say it was a bum rap.
 
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