Whats with all this low fat, low flavor garbage...........
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I agree. You know what I hate? DIET SODA!!!! I'd rather just drink water.
I used to have this friend who would go to Del Taco and order a Big Del Burrito "with extra extra sour cream," a large fry, and an extra large diet Coke!
Or my EX-roommate who would borrow a stick of butter from me and replace it w/Fleishman's light (margarine). ARGGGH!
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I used to have this friend who would go to Del Taco and order a Big Del Burrito "with extra extra sour cream," a large fry, and an extra large diet Coke!
Or my EX-roommate who would borrow a stick of butter from me and replace it w/Fleishman's light (margarine). ARGGGH!
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Yeah, I'll have a tripple wammie burger, extra large order of fries, and a diet soda.....I'm on a diet ya know....yeah right!
One i'll never forget, years and years ago cooking at Village Inn resteraunt was this lady who ordered a "cheese Omelet", but asked us to make it without using any oil to keep it from sticking in the pan, because, you see, she.......(uncontrolable laughter)....she was on a low cholesterol diet. Doctors orders you know. Gawd! The expression "only in America" sure fits that bill......
mike
One i'll never forget, years and years ago cooking at Village Inn resteraunt was this lady who ordered a "cheese Omelet", but asked us to make it without using any oil to keep it from sticking in the pan, because, you see, she.......(uncontrolable laughter)....she was on a low cholesterol diet. Doctors orders you know. Gawd! The expression "only in America" sure fits that bill......
mike
Wait till you guys get old and fat and have a heart attack.Tis no fun and sort of scares one in to at least trying to eat a little better.Heart attacks are no fun and remind one that they are not immortal.And I am talking about myself so not heresay.
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Bob--- Age and deceit will overcome youth and speed.
I'm old and deceitful.
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Bob--- Age and deceit will overcome youth and speed.
I'm old and deceitful.
Bruce in West Oz
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I agree with BeemerB, though I haven't had the heart attack ..... yet 
I lost 23 kg (what's that -- 49/50 lbs) by going to a low-fat diet. Didn't mean low-taste though -- plenty of chicken (skinned) and fish, always marinated, grilled or barbecued, with fresh salads or steamed vegies; lean cuts of steak; lamb steaks instead of chops; and NO Kentucky-Ducky or Mickey-D's (didn't miss 'em at all).
The world's best flavour-adder?? Tabasco!! Or, at a pich, Portugese piri-piri sauce (not dissimilar). And they're not fattening!
Never had a sweet tooth, so dessert was never a problem -- though I do miss my crumbly cheddars and blue-vein cheeses --- that danged "plastic" stuff sure ain't no substitute!!!
B
I lost 23 kg (what's that -- 49/50 lbs) by going to a low-fat diet. Didn't mean low-taste though -- plenty of chicken (skinned) and fish, always marinated, grilled or barbecued, with fresh salads or steamed vegies; lean cuts of steak; lamb steaks instead of chops; and NO Kentucky-Ducky or Mickey-D's (didn't miss 'em at all).
The world's best flavour-adder?? Tabasco!! Or, at a pich, Portugese piri-piri sauce (not dissimilar). And they're not fattening!
Never had a sweet tooth, so dessert was never a problem -- though I do miss my crumbly cheddars and blue-vein cheeses --- that danged "plastic" stuff sure ain't no substitute!!!
B
I recall reading something to the effect that advances in nutrition knowledge have enabled us to really be able to put together a diet which, when coupled with proper exercise, could give a person a life expectancy of 100+ years. The drawback, they said, was that at best, the food in the diet was as bland as baby food, and at worst, it tasted awful. The writer figured no one on the diet would live very long 'cause they'd kill themselves in an attempt to escape the horrors of bland food. 
Ain't modern medical science wonderful?
Excuse me, I gotta go; the blood level in my cholesterol stream is getting a bit high. (Actually, at my last physical, my level was 117. Go figure.)
Go figure on this, too. I once lost 25 lbs in about 6 weeks. I had been in the habbit of eating nearly a whole bag of potato chips as a nightly snack while watching TV (drinking whole milk, too.) All I did to lose that weight was limit myself to one small bowl of chips and one glass of milk. No other changes at all. Went from 215 to 190 in about six weeks.
Recently, I've been dropping a little more. I'm at 175 to 180 now, needing new pants and belts. (The weight loss happened about 16 or 17 years ago.) Now, if I can just shed the 2 pack/day habbit....
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Shoot straight & make big holes, regards, Richard at The Shottist's Center
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Ain't modern medical science wonderful?
Excuse me, I gotta go; the blood level in my cholesterol stream is getting a bit high. (Actually, at my last physical, my level was 117. Go figure.)
Go figure on this, too. I once lost 25 lbs in about 6 weeks. I had been in the habbit of eating nearly a whole bag of potato chips as a nightly snack while watching TV (drinking whole milk, too.) All I did to lose that weight was limit myself to one small bowl of chips and one glass of milk. No other changes at all. Went from 215 to 190 in about six weeks.
Recently, I've been dropping a little more. I'm at 175 to 180 now, needing new pants and belts. (The weight loss happened about 16 or 17 years ago.) Now, if I can just shed the 2 pack/day habbit....
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Shoot straight & make big holes, regards, Richard at The Shottist's Center
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oberkommando
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m60 9 I did the double wammy for too long 20 years and hit around 350, "Why cant you have jelly dounuts? Because I'm too heavy sir"
"No because you are a discusting fatbody"
I dont buy the low fat diet, Have dropped over sixty this year and need about fifty to go, will be very fit at 220-230.Lift iron quite regularly, but think all the carbs are the problem, at least for me so I cut them out, my basic meals are protien powder and bio engineered bars (yummy yummy!) almost eat no natural food. Eight months now and aint gonna stop anytime soon. Living on MREs will be a piece of cake if it ever comes to that. I think the low fat will work with moderate carb intake, I think were people go wrong is a high carb and high saturated fat diet together I think it is one or the other.
Plus 3-5 days High intensity cardio with the weight training helps,as does the ephedirne/caffine stacks.
"No because you are a discusting fatbody"
I dont buy the low fat diet, Have dropped over sixty this year and need about fifty to go, will be very fit at 220-230.Lift iron quite regularly, but think all the carbs are the problem, at least for me so I cut them out, my basic meals are protien powder and bio engineered bars (yummy yummy!) almost eat no natural food. Eight months now and aint gonna stop anytime soon. Living on MREs will be a piece of cake if it ever comes to that. I think the low fat will work with moderate carb intake, I think were people go wrong is a high carb and high saturated fat diet together I think it is one or the other.
Plus 3-5 days High intensity cardio with the weight training helps,as does the ephedirne/caffine stacks.
Art Eatman
Staff in Memoriam
I won't argue that a diet full of grease is some sort of Good Thing, but the problem is that very few folks do enough physical labor to keep their bodies in shape. This "diet food" is mostly for couch potatoes--which is a high percentage of the population.
Another problem, mentioned above, is the penchant for snacking in front of the TV. That's the worst of all worlds. Pablum for the mind, fat for the belly, inactivity for any muscles except the jaws--which most folks exercise too much, anyhow.
I ain't sure I want to live to be 100. Given the ever-increasing amount of "meddling" going on in the world, I ain't sure I want another 34 years of it...I'm not gonna volunteer to check out early, but when I go, I want to look back on a lot of grinnin', not a bunch of misery.
, Art
Another problem, mentioned above, is the penchant for snacking in front of the TV. That's the worst of all worlds. Pablum for the mind, fat for the belly, inactivity for any muscles except the jaws--which most folks exercise too much, anyhow.
I ain't sure I want to live to be 100. Given the ever-increasing amount of "meddling" going on in the world, I ain't sure I want another 34 years of it...I'm not gonna volunteer to check out early, but when I go, I want to look back on a lot of grinnin', not a bunch of misery.
, ArtHalf the garbage in those low fat foods is worse than the fat in the real thing! What it comes down to is that most people avoid physical exercise but they still want to eat all the rich food they can find.
They'd be better off getting a little consistent exercise and not going overboard on the fats.
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They'd be better off getting a little consistent exercise and not going overboard on the fats.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 45King:
I recall reading something to the effect that advances in nutrition knowledge have enabled us to really be able to put together a diet which, when coupled with proper exercise, could give a person a life expectancy of 100+ years. The drawback, they said, was that at best, the food in the diet was as bland as baby food, and at worst, it tasted awful.
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45King, I'll take the position that the kind of food they're talking about wouldn't really make your life longer, it'd just seem longer....
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 45King:
Went from 215 to 190 in about six weeks.
Recently, I've been dropping a little more. I'm at 175 to 180 now, needing new pants and belts. (The weight loss happened about 16 or 17 years ago.) Now, if I can just shed the 2 pack/day habbit....
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8 years ago, I was forced to quit smoking. My weight was about 175 lbs at that time. I could eat a dozen beef suet sandwiches a day and not gain a pound. After quitting, I went up to 200 in a matter of weeks, up to 225 in a matter of months and now every few months I have to go through a miserable round of starving myself and depriving myself of Shiner Bock to get down from 235 to 225. Think hard about that 2 pack a day habit, there's trade-offs.
I recall reading something to the effect that advances in nutrition knowledge have enabled us to really be able to put together a diet which, when coupled with proper exercise, could give a person a life expectancy of 100+ years. The drawback, they said, was that at best, the food in the diet was as bland as baby food, and at worst, it tasted awful.
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45King, I'll take the position that the kind of food they're talking about wouldn't really make your life longer, it'd just seem longer....
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 45King:
Went from 215 to 190 in about six weeks.
Recently, I've been dropping a little more. I'm at 175 to 180 now, needing new pants and belts. (The weight loss happened about 16 or 17 years ago.) Now, if I can just shed the 2 pack/day habbit....
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8 years ago, I was forced to quit smoking. My weight was about 175 lbs at that time. I could eat a dozen beef suet sandwiches a day and not gain a pound. After quitting, I went up to 200 in a matter of weeks, up to 225 in a matter of months and now every few months I have to go through a miserable round of starving myself and depriving myself of Shiner Bock to get down from 235 to 225. Think hard about that 2 pack a day habit, there's trade-offs.
KAM_Indianapolis
New member
Well, I ate like **** and ended up with diabetes. Now I'm on a much more healthy diet. Just have to change over my diet coke to water. Have to have that caffeine buzzzz in the morning.
Need to get back into exercizing tough. Has anyone thought of using outdoor paintball games as tactical training exercizes?
Need to get back into exercizing tough. Has anyone thought of using outdoor paintball games as tactical training exercizes?
I used to think that they were all really stupid until I starting lifting. If you want to get cut up, you need to seriously watch your fat and simple sugar intake. These foods help a lot. Although you don't want to live off of them. Eating chicken and rice gets pretty dull REAL fast. The low fat foods are pretty silly (who can eat those Snackwells things?), but the low-sugar items are a godsend.
Some things don't make sense in diet form. Ice cream is a perfect example. It's good because of all of the fat and sugar. That's it. Brownies are the same way. I hate going to a BBQ picking up a dark juicy brownie and finding out that it's laced with apple sauce. ArrrrrrgH!!!
Some things don't make sense in diet form. Ice cream is a perfect example. It's good because of all of the fat and sugar. That's it. Brownies are the same way. I hate going to a BBQ picking up a dark juicy brownie and finding out that it's laced with apple sauce. ArrrrrrgH!!!
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KAM_Indianapolis:
Well, I ate like **** and ended up with diabetes. Now I'm on a much more healthy diet.[/quote]
Yeah, there are some bad side effects to enjoying yourself, i will admit. I'm 34 years old, will be 35 on the 29th of this month. I have Arthritis throughout me, mainly in my feet, and hands.....the left being the worst. I've been told to cut out the fat, and some other things like Tomatoes. I just don't like the idea of that at all!
Now that i think about it, i guess everything does indeed have a price when its all tallied up.....But boy was that Ham Steak ever good!
mike
Well, I ate like **** and ended up with diabetes. Now I'm on a much more healthy diet.[/quote]
Yeah, there are some bad side effects to enjoying yourself, i will admit. I'm 34 years old, will be 35 on the 29th of this month. I have Arthritis throughout me, mainly in my feet, and hands.....the left being the worst. I've been told to cut out the fat, and some other things like Tomatoes. I just don't like the idea of that at all!
Now that i think about it, i guess everything does indeed have a price when its all tallied up.....But boy was that Ham Steak ever good!
mike