I was thinking about maybe getting a SIG just to complete my collection. I looked on SIGARMS' website, and the P228 isn't offered outside of LEO's anymore! I figured okay, the older ones are still out there, and probably priced way above reason. Well, looking through the auctions I see they are being offloaded at an average of $550! I remember they used to cost around $700 or so brand-new when still being sold to civilians. Are SIGs no longer the "in" thing? Has their QC dropped? Are they simply cheaper to make now? The only things that are still priced like a SIG are the pre-ban magazines from what I can see.
What's the deal with SIGs?
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Robert the41MagFan
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These are Germans that run this company and they fail to understand the American consumer. But there is plenty of stock available for stocking dealers.
Sig is having a meeting in Arizona next week and will get details of what exactly will be available for the 2002 season.
As for the P228. Product gets added and dropped all the time in this business. And, limited tooling makes for shortages from time to time. Snooze, you lose!
Robert
Sig is having a meeting in Arizona next week and will get details of what exactly will be available for the 2002 season.
As for the P228. Product gets added and dropped all the time in this business. And, limited tooling makes for shortages from time to time. Snooze, you lose!
Robert
Greeting's All,
I can tell you from experience, Sig's QC hasn't
dropped one i'oda. They are still among the finest
firearms ever produced; being in demand so much by various military's and police agencies that they can't keep up with demand. I have seen used Sig
P228's with (2) preban magazine's in LNIB condition going for $650.00, here in central Alabama. I guess your price of $550.00 isn't bad
at all?
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, Life Member N.R.A.
I can tell you from experience, Sig's QC hasn't
dropped one i'oda. They are still among the finest
firearms ever produced; being in demand so much by various military's and police agencies that they can't keep up with demand. I have seen used Sig
P228's with (2) preban magazine's in LNIB condition going for $650.00, here in central Alabama. I guess your price of $550.00 isn't bad
at all?
Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, Life Member N.R.A.
Mark IV Series 80
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Did Ruger invite them over for tea (iced of course) or what?
I hear that Ruger does the investment castings for Sig's stainless pistol slides. Can anyone confirm this?
I hear that Ruger does the investment castings for Sig's stainless pistol slides. Can anyone confirm this?
Will Beararms
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Uh Oh. LEO only? Time for another boycott.
SIG quality remains among the best in the world. The confusion is between SIG of Europe and SIG Arms, the US importer.
SIG Arms no longer imports the P228 as a standard civilian product. Instead, it offers the P229, which is available in 9mm, .40, and .357SIG. The P229 frame is made in Germany and the slide is made in America, and the gun is assembled here. The P228 is entirely made in Germany. So SIG Arms was a lot more interested in selling the P229 than the P228, and stopped importing the P228.
The frames are identical. The P228 slide is stamped, the P229 slide is milled. There seems to be no evidence that one is better than the other.
SIG Arms no longer imports the P228 as a standard civilian product. Instead, it offers the P229, which is available in 9mm, .40, and .357SIG. The P229 frame is made in Germany and the slide is made in America, and the gun is assembled here. The P228 is entirely made in Germany. So SIG Arms was a lot more interested in selling the P229 than the P228, and stopped importing the P228.
The frames are identical. The P228 slide is stamped, the P229 slide is milled. There seems to be no evidence that one is better than the other.
Robert the41MagFan
New member
Dave,
Have no clue as to why they're meeting in Arizona, but do know that it is to show their sales group new 2002 products.
I'm concerned about those stupid internal trigger locks and are they going to follow the industry and use them. If they are, I'm going on one serious buying spree before they employ any such devices.
Well to be honest, the buying already started and the locks is just an excuse. Got a P210 today. And will get a P226 Sport and a pair of stainless P220 before the end of the year. Reserving those 220's for future projects (10mm conversion or how about .40 Super!).
My collection is internal trigger lock free.
Robert
Have no clue as to why they're meeting in Arizona, but do know that it is to show their sales group new 2002 products.
I'm concerned about those stupid internal trigger locks and are they going to follow the industry and use them. If they are, I'm going on one serious buying spree before they employ any such devices.
Well to be honest, the buying already started and the locks is just an excuse. Got a P210 today. And will get a P226 Sport and a pair of stainless P220 before the end of the year. Reserving those 220's for future projects (10mm conversion or how about .40 Super!).
My collection is internal trigger lock free.
Robert
Have no clue as to why they're meeting in Arizona
Ha, a question I can answer with expertise for you all.
How many of you want to fly up to chilly NH next week?
OK, now how many of you would like to fly to AZ next week, especially when most will be going on someone else's nickel?
That doesn't seem so mysterious...
RTFMF, I hear you on the buying spree. Folks in California and Massachusetts (maybe Maryland, too?) have already faced this as their rulers imposed requirements for things like loaded chamber indicators -- but at least that's a passive device, unlike the soon-to-be-ubiquitous keylocks.
Ha, a question I can answer with expertise for you all.
How many of you want to fly up to chilly NH next week?
OK, now how many of you would like to fly to AZ next week, especially when most will be going on someone else's nickel?
That doesn't seem so mysterious...
RTFMF, I hear you on the buying spree. Folks in California and Massachusetts (maybe Maryland, too?) have already faced this as their rulers imposed requirements for things like loaded chamber indicators -- but at least that's a passive device, unlike the soon-to-be-ubiquitous keylocks.
DEC,
If there's any truth to it, that'd be the reason. I remember a bunch of people bemoaning the P-228's unavailability "They've pulled it off the civilian market! They've made it LEO only! Traitors!". Actually, they were up to their eyeballs filling LEO and military contracts with the P-228 and thus the rest of us would just have to wait. When somebody's making a 5,000 or 50,000 gun purchase, their cash speaks loudly. If you don't believe me, have a gun waiting in line at Walter Birdsong's when a batch from SOCOM shows up and see where yours gets bumped to.
Anyhow, long story short, supposedly they're gonna be stretched to meet several P-226 orders, so the ones in gun store counters may get a little thin for a while. Take this with a grain of salt.
OTOH, the P-228 is back; Davidson's was near givin' 'em away for a couple of weeks, there.
If there's any truth to it, that'd be the reason. I remember a bunch of people bemoaning the P-228's unavailability "They've pulled it off the civilian market! They've made it LEO only! Traitors!". Actually, they were up to their eyeballs filling LEO and military contracts with the P-228 and thus the rest of us would just have to wait. When somebody's making a 5,000 or 50,000 gun purchase, their cash speaks loudly. If you don't believe me, have a gun waiting in line at Walter Birdsong's when a batch from SOCOM shows up and see where yours gets bumped to.
Anyhow, long story short, supposedly they're gonna be stretched to meet several P-226 orders, so the ones in gun store counters may get a little thin for a while. Take this with a grain of salt.
OTOH, the P-228 is back; Davidson's was near givin' 'em away for a couple of weeks, there.