What's the bottom line in Llama "1911"

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swatman

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I know these are not true 1911's. I have a friend I work with who told me he was thinking of selling his to buy a muzzleloader for deer season. It kind of got me interested. He and another friend of mine had both owned one and both said they were reliable for them. I have heard mixed things about Llamas though. Does anyone here have any 1st hand experience with these "1911" style pistols.
What are they like in terms of reliability, craftsmanship, accuracy, etc.
My friend said he got this pistol awhile back and is not even sure of how much to ask for it whenand if he decides to sell it.
What should a used one go for?
Thanks in advance.
 
I have no first hand experience with Llamas except those I have seen at the zoo. Now that I got that feeble attempt at humor out of my system, I will make a suggestion.

If, indeed, he is your friend, and you are interested in pursuing the opportunity to buy his pistol (not a guarantee that you will buy it), why not ask to take it out and put about 100 rounds through it. This will give you a feel for the gun as well as check out accuracy and give you a cursory glimpse of the reliability. If it has any malfs during the first 100 rounds, you probably don't want it.

Price? Go to one, or more, of the on line gun auctions and see if you can find like models. This will give you a fair idea of an appropriate price.

Hope this helps.
 
I have never shot one..but played with a few. New and used.
A full sized sil/black 2 tone is selling new for 299.00 $ the same gun used sold for 200.00$ at another store. Both had alot of extras..extended controls, lowered and flared etc......
The used one was LNIB and very tempting...shoot well
Both guns looked and felt like alot of other 1911's , full size frame and grip..etc
 
On sale in so cal. they go for $270. I'm with Arub, see if you can shoot it 1st. I have never shot one but I handled one that was a double stack version. The one thing I didn't like on it was the grip safety. On my kimber I can pretty hold the pistol anyway I want and the grip safety will be depressed properly and the gun will fire. On this double stack llama, the pistol wouldn't fire unless you made sure your grip was just right where the grip safety was depressed 100%. I don't want something where I need to adjust my grip to get it to fire. This was just my observation on this particular pistol. Mark
 
I have seen three of them. One shot around 8" groups at 25 yards, and the owner asked me to see what I could do to improve it. I had to tell him that the gun was so sloppy and with so many internal file marks that I thought it unlikely that it could ever be made to work right. Further, the hand filed sear was about to go, and the hand filed hammer looked like it might not be far behind. The barrel was so sloppy that when inserted in the frame with the slide off, it wobbled 1/4 inch to either side. In brief, a real mess. I told him that a good barrel alone would be more than the gun was worth, and that I declined to work on it. I had a chance to look at two more, and they did not appear much better inside, though all three looked nice externally.

Jim
 
Well, I've had my Llama MiniMax for about a year now. Overall, I'm pleased. After all, I only paid $259 for it NIB.

Of the 500 of so rounds I've put through it, I've had absolutely no failures of any kind.
Roughly half of them have been JHPs as well.
The reason so few rounds have been put through it is pointed out below.

As for accuracy, mine holds respectable groups at 25 yards. I'm typically able to squeeze out 4"- 5" groups out to that range, and I'm not the best shot. The occasional 2" group will make it's appearance now and then, when luck plays a role.

Internally, mine does exhibit machine marks, but is not sloppy in any way, nor does it rattle.

The only drawback with mine is the ejector, which tosses spent cases directly back and slap my forehead (this especially hurts with .45acp brass). After this is repaired, it will be an excellent defensive handgun.
 
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