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FirstFreedom

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OK, I have a couple of hunting buddies who are generally pro-gun (obviously) and vote repub, etc. And if you ask them, they would badmouth gun "control" measures til they're blue in the face, including those against homeland defense weapons (that's refreshing). BUT, they are not members of NRA - why, you ask? Well I did ask them - both said it's because they "don't want to be on any list" of the gov't, and being in NRA means you'll get on a list. WTH do I say to that to try to get them to join NRA or GOA? Thanks.

BTW, when I was discussing the real reason for the RKBA with one of these guys (who had previously only considered the RKBA as useful for hunting and self-defense), he had a real down-home way of saying what the RKBA is really for. He said, "Ok, so guns are really in case the government gets too 'uppity' ? " I thought a sec, laughed hard, and said, yep, that's exactly right, for when the gov't get too 'uppity'.
 
Given modern technology, I figure everyone is on a list of some sort,,,,like it or not.

Least by joining I get to choose what list(s).
 
Tell them that the most common mistake that people who make their own aluminum foil helmets encounter is the unfounded belief that shiny side out is enough. THIS IS FALSE!!! They must (at minimum) use two layers of foil, and carefully employ a shiny side In as well as OUT method.

Failure to do so will cause the refractory properties of tooth fillings to bounce government disseminated Jupiter waves through soft-palette tissue, to subsequently reach their medula oblongatas, thus making them victims of the mind-control zombie effects of said waves.

As everyone who got the memo from the Secret Squirrel Squadron* knows, the reflective properties of aluminum foil thwart the oblongata seeking powers of Jupiter waves when properly employed.

Oh, and remember to tell them to use plenty of duct tape. No such thing as too much. Mustn't have those babies coming loose from the ol' noggin!

:rolleyes:

Frankly, if these two do something other than mouth-breathe on the couch all day, they are already on a "list" somewhere. So what? They think they are going to look special on the NRA list of over 3 million people? Yeah, right! :rolleyes: :p


* The Squadron motto: "Semper Squirrus! Semper Soldatus!" "Always Secret! Always Squirrel!"
 
The NRA JEALOUSLY guards their list. You have to swear on your firstborn even to have a glimpse of it, let alone a copy.
 
tell him why worry?????...

the secretly log your ammo purchases.. even with cash, they scan your fingerprints into their system....
 
Plenty of lists already

The NRA is the least of their worries. How about the 4473's ?

Hunting licenses?

Plus money to the NRA goes to good use...
 
tell'em that now that GWB is set for his final term,
folkes on the NRA list get a free AR15

;)
 
What's the best response to this argument?
The more I think about it the more I think it doesn't even deserve a response. I wouldn't spend time around people that ignorant. Not even if all they had were Nerf bats, much less loaded guns.
 
1. If the gov't is going to keep a list, do your part to make sure it's a very long list.

2. I want to have the honor of being at the top of the list.
 
yes gentlemen, if you have a carry permit, ever filled out a 4473, ever bought a hunting license or bought a gun, ammo, or accessories with a check or credit card -- guess what? You've been marked! I don't know anyone who hasn't done the above who is a shooter or hunter; there's plenty of us. Good news is - we outnumber the scumsuckers!

Why does the ATF force closing dealers to turn in all their 4473s under threat of prison?? THERE'S A REASON!!!

Be of good cheer, live your lives as free men and remember - we outnumber the scumsuckers!
 
Last year, I and other Wisconsin Concealed Carry Association volunteers were trying to get people to write their legislators about our concealed carry bill. More than a few didn't want to write a postcard because they'd get on a list.

Two people who spring to mind immediately were in their very early twenties. I told them that if they were in the phone book, if they ever voted, if they had drivers licenses, etc, etc, they were on a list. Still no go.

A certain level of paranoia when it comes to anti-gunners is understandable; after all, Sarah & Co. are out to grab the guns. But, c'mon...
 
If we let the second amendment haters scare us into hiding or inaction, they have won that battle and may eventually win the whole war. I have come to the conclusion that we can't run and we can't hide - we must turn on the enemy and fight, like the founders of this great nation did.

If you believe in the second amendment, take a stand and say to hell with the lists and to hell with what other people think!!!
 
"...buddies who are generally pro-gun..."

If they were my friends I suppose I'd tell them that they might be gun owners, gun collectors, gun fanciers and gun nuts, but they're not actually pro-gun. Just owning a gun isn't enough anymore.

John
 
YOU really need to take Gomer and Goober aside and point out to them that if they have a drivers license, a social security number and are even registered voters they are on every damn list known to mankind anyway.
 
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