bullfrog99
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would you get a VEPR II in 7.62x39(top of the line ak) or a century arms STG-58 on a pacific armament reciever(Imbel) that is proven to be in servicable condition?
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What would you get?(ak-fal)
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George Hill
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Oh Come On...
This is a Caliber question.
Do you want a 7.62MM Nato or a 7.62X39MM?
The VEPR II comes in both BTW.
Personally I love BOTH of these rifles and picking one is like sacrificing the other... I guess I would take the VEPR as I have wanted one for a long time now and have had other FAL types.
The VEPR really is the Best of the Best when it comes to AK variants.
What I would love to see is a VEPR based SVD rifle.
This is a Caliber question.
Do you want a 7.62MM Nato or a 7.62X39MM?
The VEPR II comes in both BTW.
Personally I love BOTH of these rifles and picking one is like sacrificing the other... I guess I would take the VEPR as I have wanted one for a long time now and have had other FAL types.
The VEPR really is the Best of the Best when it comes to AK variants.
What I would love to see is a VEPR based SVD rifle.
bullfrog99
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i don't have any fal's or ak's, but for around the same price, i can get a bottom line fal or top of the line ak, I just wondered which one you would get.
Couple of points
1-parts,Ak veper parts not as easy to get or as cheap as FN parts
2-As per your perameters you are talking apples and oranges.The AK in 7.62x39 is assult rifle(not realy because no full auto) and the FN is a main battle rifle.
I personaly like the FN a lot better.Of corse I know the FN inside and out which makes a difference.Plus I live in AZ which means a lot of longer range shooting
1-parts,Ak veper parts not as easy to get or as cheap as FN parts
2-As per your perameters you are talking apples and oranges.The AK in 7.62x39 is assult rifle(not realy because no full auto) and the FN is a main battle rifle.
I personaly like the FN a lot better.Of corse I know the FN inside and out which makes a difference.Plus I live in AZ which means a lot of longer range shooting
Zigokubasi
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It really depends on what you need it for, but in general I'd get the VEPR. It seems to be a simple matter of quality, and much-praised as the FAL may be, I doubt it's so good that the worst FAL is better than the best AK...IMHO.
Ziggy
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bullfrog99
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lets call either of their purposes plinking, minus the difference of ammunition. I just want a good Military type semi auto, and am not sure if i should go with an ak-pattern or a fal pattern. I wouldn't really concider the vepr an assault rifle,(stupid name we shouldn't use, as by definition an assault rifle is full auto) it weighs as much as the fal, 9+lbs, making it more of an apples to pears comparison. I've never shot either, i'm just not sure which one i'd rather have, and want to know which one you would get and why.
Since the rifles will be about the same weight (9 lbs?), go FAL, because:
1. .308 has better ballistics, both external and terminal (with good bullets, of course). Standard .308 surplus is a 150gr SPBT at around 2700-2750 fps from a full 21" barrel. 7.62x39 is, I think, a 130gr at around 2400 fps. .308 reaches out to long-range better.
2. Sights on the FAL are better than the AK. All the AK's I've seen have a mauser-type rear sight mounted in front of the receiver. The FAL has a range-adjustable peep behind the receiver, more like an M14 or AR-15. This is subjective, but I prefer the peep-type.
3. FAL mags are $5 each, or $8 each for brand-new-in-cosmoline.
4. A "really good" scope mount exists for the FAL (DSA), if you choose to go that route. I am not sure a comparable quality mount exists for the AK.
5. The "Right Arm of the Free World", it has been used by over 90 countries [Jane's Inf. Weapons].
-z
1. .308 has better ballistics, both external and terminal (with good bullets, of course). Standard .308 surplus is a 150gr SPBT at around 2700-2750 fps from a full 21" barrel. 7.62x39 is, I think, a 130gr at around 2400 fps. .308 reaches out to long-range better.
2. Sights on the FAL are better than the AK. All the AK's I've seen have a mauser-type rear sight mounted in front of the receiver. The FAL has a range-adjustable peep behind the receiver, more like an M14 or AR-15. This is subjective, but I prefer the peep-type.
3. FAL mags are $5 each, or $8 each for brand-new-in-cosmoline.
4. A "really good" scope mount exists for the FAL (DSA), if you choose to go that route. I am not sure a comparable quality mount exists for the AK.
5. The "Right Arm of the Free World", it has been used by over 90 countries [Jane's Inf. Weapons].
-z
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god this is a wide open question.since you havent even shot either one.
the problem with the cheaper fals is that they are parts rifles.if you have about 1000 bucks to spend id say get the FAL
Now if money is a factor get you a brand new in the box norinco AK-47 for 350.best deal on this type of rifle and the mak-90(norinco ak)have the best triggers in the ak line.
the problem with the cheaper fals is that they are parts rifles.if you have about 1000 bucks to spend id say get the FAL
Now if money is a factor get you a brand new in the box norinco AK-47 for 350.best deal on this type of rifle and the mak-90(norinco ak)have the best triggers in the ak line.