What would an old sporter have looked like?

kawasakifreak77

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So I've got this Swedish Mauser that's been sporterized already. I've posted about it here before & ya'll have been a great help! Just the black plastic stock & scope didn't fit my tastes.

I'm all about vintage stuff & ideals. It represents a time long gone that I feel had far better craftsmanship & respect for your fellow man (& woman!) than we see today. This all WAY before my time but I get told often I was born 40 years too late...

The point here is not to whine about modern society or cry about 'the good old days' but rather to help me build a rifle to represent that era.

General outline of the rifle:

Bolt action, wood, leather sling, iron sights, etc.

Whithin that criteria, what would a good 'ole boy's rifle looked like circa 1930-1950?

I'm mostly curious about the little things like the kind of sights, sling & swivels, etc it would have been equipped with.

I have no NEED for this rifle, only my dad was kind enough to give it to me after I wouldn't stop pestering him to sell it to me. I do love the slick action (puts my new Remington to shame!) & the inherently high BC 6.5mm bullets. I want to basically build it into something that looks like it was built back when.

It doesn't have to be a perfectly accurate museum piece by no means. Close is probably as best as I can get now days.

Example of my thought process:

A new rifle has QD sling swivels. A WWII era rifle would have had ________ ?

It will have some new pieces & my loads for it use only the best match bullets money can buy. She's a paper puncher. But when I hang her on the wall I want people to ask me about great grandad's gun up there if ya get my drift.

Parts on hand:

1919 Carl Gustaf action.
New Shilen match barrel.
Timney trigger.
Small ring Mauser walnut stock from Brownells.

Help me fill in the blanks. This all might sound really funny, especially to someone of my own generation but any help on this matter will be GREATLY appreciated!
 
Your idea of "vintage": Pre-WW II old enough, or are you thinking of even older?

Search the Web for firearms auctions. If there is one nearby, go to it and take pictures of rifles which fit your ideas.
 
When I was a kid,,,

When I was a kid,,,
Me and all my buddies had "sporterized" mil-surps.

It seems to me that the one common thread,,,
Was the chopped down and refinished military stock.

We did anything we could think of,,,
To make our rifle look different from the others.

Shaving thickness off of and bleaching the old wood,,,
We in wood shop made attempts at inlaying decorative wood inserts.

One friend drilled holes crossways through his stock,,,
And then he inlayed different diameter dowels in a pattern.

We would cut the barrel down to eliminate the front sight,,,
Sometimes have a kid in machine shop mill off the old rear sight ramps.

Of course a scope was an absolute must if you were cool at all. :cool:

You're probably thinking about doing a much nicer job that we did,,,
But your post brought up some old memories from my past.

Especially my Pop yelling that I had just ruined,,,
A perfectly good $15.00 mail order British .303 Enfield.

Aarond

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I have a friend that has a Mauser 98 in 8mm-'06 in a sporterized military stock. It has a Williams rear sight, and it's- I guess, "spare" in appearance. No handguard, with a satin oil finish. Everything you need and nothing you don't. I tried to buy it off him but he knew better.

I'd probably go with styling cues from some of the Rigby African sporters.
 
Though this one was done sometime between 1918 and 1920, this style didn't change much until after WWII and was quite common throughout much of Western Europe...

Jagdgewehr from the Royal Prussian Arsenal, leaf sights, spoon bolt handle, double set triggers.

 
Do a search for "Griffin and Howe Rifles", and LO... behold the beauties. Should be right up your alley. At least give you some ideas.
 
Thanks for the ideas guys. I've Google image searched a little bit & so far have come up short.

Aaron, that's a cool story man. Thanks for sharing.

Trigger, that is a work of art! A little more high end than what I am aiming for. Regardless, thank you.
 
As it is a Mauser, and I'm guessing a Model 96, something along the lines of a German sporter would be nice. Look at the current Winchester M70 Featherweight to get my drift. Have the sling swivel on the barrel rather than the stock. If the barrel has a stepped barrel, that was proper on some rifles as well.
I took an FN M98 Mausers, used a used but in good shape stock from a Husqvarna Husky and rebarreled to 7x57 Mauser. Put the foreward swiel on the barrel and made a nice looking rifles.
Paul B.
 
Prior to the 1940s you would have had a "straight comb" classic stock, with a shnabel forend if you were talking a milsurp to sporter conversion of the European school.

The advent of quality relatively inexpensive riflescopes made "Monte Carlo" style stocks much more prevalent in the post WWII sporter era.

I think these are pretty representative of the era in question.

Pre-WWII sporter lines
http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/372936/8321087/cac1d1b5e27c53f357b96b3db86bc763.jpg

Post-WWII hunting rifle
http://images1.bonhams.com/image?sr...&height=480&halign=l0&valign=t0&autosizefit=0

Post WWII Competition sporter:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/doctorxring/M69-1.jpg

I hope this helps.

Jimro
 
Maybe you can turn stuff up on the www. If you want handy references for this and other period gear, go to Cornell Publications and get their reprint of the 1939 Stoegers and the 1911 Alfa catalogs. You can see pictures of sporting rifles that were the style in those eras. The Stoegers even has pictures of the stocks they sold for sporterizing service rifles.

You will note that an older European sporting rifle is not likely to have a low mounted scope sight. Can you get by with open or peep sights or a rather tall scope?
 
A lot of the old sporters didn't have sling swivels.

And many had them added decades afterwards, by later owners.

One high end Mauser I saw had a peep sight, mounted on the cocking piece.

Another had a buttplate, and pistol grip cap made of bone.

The "classic" low comb stock is the only one that is "period correct", in general terms. Although a cheek piece on one is also ok. But not a Monte Carlo full rollover style. Those came later than the period you are interested in.
 
Just some pics I've collected
 

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When I think of sporters form the 30s to the 50s I think about sportered Miltary rifles. I think about a fella getting something like a 1903 for $20 and making something nice for himself out of it. Cut and shaped mil stock or a home made Monte Carlo stock. Something hand carved and personal on the wood. Peeps or a 2x scope. Steel but plates and cut down barrrels. Sling made from a couple of decent old belts bound together with brass Chicago Bolts...

Check this
http://www.chuckhawks.com/springfield_03_sporter.htm


For me this rifle is a lightly sportered '91 Argentine Mauser that I picked up from a local guy for next to nothing. I'm thinking of rebarreling to 300 Savage just to stay 30 cal. I may keep it stock if I can find some really heavy hard cast bullets that it will shoot or if it will shoot a 123gr AK bullet (my understanding is that good many have a tight bore). Just going to add a XS rear peep and a banded hooded front sight. I have a stick of ebony to tip the foregrip. I'm keeping the straight bolt handle and will load from strippers. Its gonna be Boss.
 
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I bought this rifle on the cheap, I think "sporterized" in the 70's ( it had the original barrel, which didn't group to my satisfaction, on it when I bought it ) so other than replace the barrel, & add a cock on open kit, this is how the 93 Mauser looked in the 70's...

the thread with lots of pictures...

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=281541

an over view to compare with todays picture below...

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how it looks today ( awaiting a 3.5 -14 Nikon Prostaff 5 scope )

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