what will you tell to your wife if...

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need advice her. My wife have been shooting for almost 10 years now and have to some IDPA shooting classes. During this time her choice have allways been Glock or CZ pistols in 9mm, recently she decided to carry (legaly of course).
She wants to get a CZ 83 in 32 auto caliber or maybe a CZ 92 in 25 auto.
She said she can shoot both this caliber faster than any 9mm and prefer to have one of these pistol on her instead of a 9mm at home. On this point she's right. I try to convince her to pick up a Glock 26 but she doesn't want to hear about it. Revolver are out of question for her (I tried to give her my SP101). What you guys think?
 
I think i would try to convince that a 380 would be the minimum she should carry if just wont carry a 9mm. i think a .25 is worse than a .22 but better than a sharp stick but not by much.
 
Well if she is up to speed and wants to shoot a .32, who are we to argue with her personal preferences? I do think that a large bulky .32 would be a disadvantage though. Isn't the CZ a rather large double stack design based on the 9x18 Mak? She might find something like a .32 Keltec to be too small to handle like many people do. Beretta Tomcat maybe? Smallish but not like the Keltec to get a grip on. Then there are European type 32 autos that are a bit larger and may only suffer from heavyish DA pulls. Walter PPk, Mauser Hsc, the little CZ types 50/70. I have a 70. It is PP sized slide and PPk sized grip. Very accurate and works great with ball ammo. Drawback-size weight and DA pull. Well is she is gun savvy, there is no advantage to trying to force her to carry a particular cal. or gun, any more than you would want to be forced by her, to carry a .32 pocket pistol. Maybe she will come around to be more in line with you, over time. But in any case maybe I would stick with the hottest .32 ball ammo I could find, like maybe Fiocchi or such. HP .32 rounds demand alot from a compact gun for reliability, and I have to wonder how well the little 60 gr. HP ammo penetrates or works. You could suggest the 380 minimum, but you know, how would you like shooting if someone else dictated what. Like the gov't for instance! One other idea is the Seecamp. And it is tuned for the HP ammo.
 
Well,I think your wife is a bad ass woman I wish would teach my wife how to shoot.

If she feels she can kill a bad guy very quickly with a 32 caliber handgun then I would buy her the very best 32 caliber handgun I could find and be very grateful I had a wife that was so well versed in the field of handgun shooting.

I think your wife would quickly go from body shooting a bad guy to head shooting him if the round was'nt stopping him quickly enough and that would definitely convince any bad guy,that stepping in front of your wife armed and firing (shooting for 10 years and with some IDPA expereince),was the WORSE decision he ever made in his life.

You got a cool wife dude.:D
 
I think if she's a legal adult she can pretty much make up her own mind as to what she wants to carry.

If I had my way, you'd all be carrying a 5" steel-framed 1911 in .45ACP, but I let you make your inferior choices without nagging y'all about it; you should extend that courtesy to others. :D
 
Well, I'm with Tamara on all counts on this one.

Firstly I'd say your wife obviously knows shooting, and knows what works best for her. I'd let her decide to carry whatever she's most comfortable with and leave the subject alone.

AND
If I had my way, you'd all be carrying a 5" steel-framed 1911 in .45ACP

I do ! :)
 
Tamara is absolutely correct: your wife is an adult and can make up her own mind. Stop nagging.

Now, for your wife's birthday, or for your birthday, or to celebrate St. Patrick's Day or the full moon or some other holiday, I strongly suggest you purchase a two-day defensive handgun class that you can both attend. IDPA is excellent practice for defending oneself, but there are a lot of real-life questions that will never be addressed via that practice medium, or addressed in a competition-centric class, that are much more likely to be addressed in a defensive-type class. It's the next logical step here, and likely to be a lot of fun too.

pax
 
Hopefully, what ever she carries, she wont have to use

Being able to carry, or wanting to carry is more than just happily walking around with a gun in your pocket (so to speak) As part of our safety courses, to drum into people that guns make a mess of things they hit, I have sat thru the slide shows of unfortunate victims of shootings, either accidental or on purpose. Nasty stuff. If you walk around with something huge like a .45 or something, if you have to shoot someone with it, there will be a mess. If the guy you see walking, menicingly (you think) towards you in the dark, and you panic and pull your 45 on him and "blow his head off" then realise that he hadnt even seen you, and was reaching into his pocket to answer his phone (not to pull a gun on you) you better be prepared to see alot of mess. Could you handle it? Especially if you are in the wrong?

Perhaps your lovely wife actually realises that if she were to have to shoot someone, with a smaller gun, that she is happy with, gives her the choice of stopping someone (or better still, detering them from interfering with her, without actually shooting them) without neccessarily blowing parts off their body every time.

Another thing I dont think people who think carrying a huge cal. gun, is that if a drug affected (but unarmed) BG takes you by suprise, and gets your gun off you, (the only firearm at the scenario) he might just turn it on you :eek: Would you rather it was a 45 or a 32? By carrying smaller, it might just save your own skin?:eek:

I reckon your wife should carry as little or as much as she wants, and everyone who carries at all, should go to the local morgue (or at least look at photo's) of gunshot victims and ask themselves If they could live with themselves if they did that to someone, and especially if it turned out they (the shooter) was actually in the wrong.:barf:

Muzza ;)
 
I find it odd that we are so insincere that we don’t trust the weaker sex to know what they want or like.

Are we so mucho that we can’t see that they can think and reason on their own?

Personally if I dint think my wife was smart enough to make her own decisions I’d not have married her.

We have different likes and dislikes, but we have more in common. I don’t try to sway her, nor she me.

Remember behind every great man is a women rolling her eyes.
 
Pax is correct (of course, as is Tamara).

Depending on where you live there are some great courses for couples or women. BTW, Tom Givens has a nice article on women and guns in his March newsletter at rangemaster.com.
 
Isn't a CZ 82 pretty much the same as a CZ 83? The 9X18 version is very, very nice to shoot and very easy to keep on target. But, your wife is better off using anything she's comfortable with. That's the first rule. Better to have her comfortable and secure with a little less oomph than to have her grumblingly reluctant with something more powerful that someone else has foisted upon her.
 
Trying to tell your wife what to get would most likely be counter productive. She is better off carrying a gun that she chooses, than not carrying a gun you force her to choose.

While some people make jokes about minor caliber bullets making a bad guy mad, it does have some validity to actual shootings. Perhaps, you could frame your concerns about her choice of a 32 or 25 as fear for her safety should she ever have to shoot someone with such a low powered round.

You could indirectly demonstrate to her the lack of power by going shooting steel targets. Try shooting Pepper Poppers that are set to fall with a center of mass hit from a 45. She'll be shooting all day with a 25 and get little result other than a ping.

I would seriously consider what pax has said. She is always on point. She also has an understanding of the workings of a female mind that men do not.
 
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Of course the final choice in firearms is her's to make but if she has an eye on the CZ-83 (a great carry gun and all around fun shooter) I would ASK her to try one in .380 or 9x18 mak.
 
Thanks for all those great advices guys. Actually my main concern is not about her gun choice but mostly about the caliber, but I understand your point and as somebody said, a hit with a 32 is better than a miss with a 45 :)
 
I'd rather have someone with a Jennings .22 at my side than someone with no gun.

If her shooting comfort or concealment/carry comfort dictates a sub-.380 for daily carry, so be it.

If I had my way, you'd all be carrying a 5" steel-framed 1911 in .45ACP

In snakeskin holsters and matching textured grips, no less.:p After all, we have to have class when we step out wearing our BBQ guns.

I "compromise" on carry in the summer, and I'm not even trying to wear tight jeans or spaghetti strap tops to impress my significant other. Life gets very interesting (as does the mental imagery) when one considers where a wife or GF might hide a pistol when dressed to impress.

(Although I did see a beautiful redhead wearing a Blackhawk in a crossdraw rig and blue jeans at the range the other day... Sigh...:p)

Let the lady carry what she wants, and appreciate it.
 
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