what to use?

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jroth

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Hello,
My daughter will go on second deer hunt with me this November 15th. Last year dur to short notice, she carried M1 carbine with 100gr short jackets.
for this year, should she recarry the carbine or use AR15 with Win. 64grs?
Thanks.
 
Both are a little light, but if its possible and the twist rate is right (which it sould be becasue these stabalize in my 22-250) and you are handloading try the Speer 70 grain semi spitzer.

The higher MV of the 5.56 makes it a tad better than the cal 30
Carbine with a 1/2 jacket.
 
i abhor the use of 22's for deer, and the 30 carbine isn't even a legal option in this state...is it not possible to pick up a more qualified deer rifle?

if you must...go w/ the ar.
 
She'd do better at the proverbial "ethical, clean kill" with a NEF HandiRifle in .243 than either the AR or the Carbine. (If watching the budget is a consderation...)

What age is she? How big?

:), Art
 
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This is for deer in norther Michiagn.
Daughter is 18 and 110lbs.
Has shot .22LR, tried 20ga youth Mossberg with 2-1/2 drams loads
and could not handle it.
Additionally have a 336, possibly use 125gr 30/30?
 
Is a 22 cal round legal in Michigan ?

I hand losd Speer 70gr ,Nosler Partitions 60gr. and the Winchester 64gr for my AR-15 20". They all work well to 200 yds.

The good old 30-30 will of course do the job and she;ll just fire 1 round for hir kill , right ?

She may be better off with the AR. If it is a 16" you had better linit her shots to 150 yds. If a 14.5" 100 yds !
 
there ya go! 30-30 pushing 150 grain federal classics... beats the heck outta your other options.

30-30 kicks much less than a shotgun...you'd be surprised if you knew how much shotguns actually kick. difference is shotguns aren't shot from a bench, and too many rifle hunters are incapable of seperating themselves from the bench, which makes a gun seem to kick hard...

30-30...there's a deer thumper w/o the kick.
 
I'm not real enthused with either gun or caliber. You can probably find a good deal at a gun show for a Remington mod. 7
Look for it in the Youth model in caliber .243. It's designed for the younger set or small ladies like my wife. It's accurate, well made, and comes in calibers designed for deer hunting. And on top of that, the .243 has low recoil. :cool:
 
Ralph Nader would faint if he saw some of the wooden ladder stands I build. Oh they are solid and I brace em but they are built as small as possible so I can lug em' by myself in the woods and set em up near fresh sign.

Add to that I am only 5'7" and I will tell you I l-o-o-o-v-v-v-e-e-e the 30-30 150 grain for a tree stand gun. They do not kick at all. Go with that 30-30 in 150 grain and she will be good to go.
 
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The padding of winter clothing makes a big difference in perceived recoil--dramatic reduction!

Any time you're trying her out on some new gun, remember that a good set of hear-guards makes a big difference as well. Most folks react more to the noise more than the kick...

Art
 
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If you already have the 30/30, imho, you're all set!
I have stuck by my 30/30 Marlin so long, most of my huntin' pals are using it again also. East Ky. hills, longest shot ever 150 yds.

There is no recoil to bother her, to speak of, and the 150gr. hp's just drop them with no fuss.

Like some of the other guys, I agree the .243 is a great way to introduce youngsters and women to bolt guns.

I started my nephew with a Rem youth model 7 last fall. He only weighed 75 lbs. and the .243 didn't bother him at all.
 
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