What the Supreme Court must understand

Byron

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Almost nobody is looking at what is critical in these recounts. It is NOT important why voter errors occur (butterfly ballots,etc.); and it's NOT even a question of chads and the criteria used to conjure up the voter's intention during a recount (as long as the same decision criteria are used for all ballots). Those are diversions to fool people who don't understand numbers.

The ONLY issue is the selection of counties to be hand recounted. The effect of recounting only counties that went heavily for Gore is to take random errors and turn them into extra votes for Gore.

Example: In a county that went 65% for Gore, obviously 65% of the random errors will have come from Gore voters. So,if you can find a way to turn bad ballots into votes, 65% will (surprise!) turn out to be Gore votes. A hundred resurrected bad ballots would on average yield 65 Gore votes and 35 Bush votes, for a 30-vote pickup for Gore. But, of course, the opposite would be true in a county that went 65% for Bush.

Random errors do not change who wins, and they do not change the percentage each candidate gets. The only reason to worry about random error is that in a very close election where the absolute vote count becomes important, one side or the other may try to pull a fast one by doing selective hand recounts of their high-majority counties. That's exactly what the Gore bunch is up to.

All the business about butterfly ballots and dimpled chads was merely the wedge to get recounts in certain Gore counties. They also were careful to sample hugely-Gore precincts to demonstrate that more Gore votes went uncounted (well, of course!), thus there was a "problem" requiring a recount in the whole county! Once the recounts are confined to Gore counties, it's an automatic win.

The GOP, since it for some reason (not good with numbers?) did not demand recounts in Bush counties, is very lucky more Gore counties weren't recounted. If more had been counted, Gore would have won; the math is inexorable.

The Supreme Court has to understand what is going on here, and not be side-tracked by butterflys and chads. The only fair hand recount is of the entire state, nothing else.
 
The USSC rules on many complex cases and should be very good at weeding out the chads. Each side has very little time to present their case. Both sides will be much to the point. They were correct in keeping the TV cameras out of the courtroom. This will keep grandstanding to a minimum.
 
Selective counties? How about selective precincts?

Hmmm...

... one side or the other may try to pull a fast one by doing selective hand recounts of their high-majority counties. That's exactly what the Gore bunch is up to.
Now we all know that counties have precincts and the voting is done by precinct - the [hand] counting done by precinct. When "we count the county ballots by hand", particularly with a time deadline, we could count (selectively, huh?) those precincts known to be "our precincts" first and "their precincts" later. While ultimately all the precincts may be counted, and the votes "publicized" as each precinct is counted - well, then there's the rub, huh? And all "we" need is 537 additional votes (or whatever that number is). So not only is it selective counties, but selective precincts of selective counties.

Tell me I'm wrong ... please.
 
I agree with Gary. The USSC are some pretty bright folks. I don’t think they need any of us telling them what they must understand.

They rarely make rulings based on what's "moral" or what seems like "the right thing to do"... they usually base their judgments strictly on the law whenever possible. The law is pretty clear cut on this one.

My only fear is that they, with some degree of validity, will say that this is Florida's problem and not theirs. We all know how competent Florida is in understanding and interpreting the law :(.
 
Ironbarr, you are not wrong. That's exactly what they did in Miami-Dade, selecting very heavy-Gore precincts as their "sample" to hand count. Every time they do that, they will automatically come up with lots more Gore votes having been "not counted", so that is then the reason why they say whole county must be hand counted. (In the case of Miami-Dade, they might not actually end up with that many extra votes, because the county as a whole only went 53-47 for Gore.)

What the Supreme Court should do is throw out all these selective hand counts and go with the original machine re-count. (That, or order a hand count of the whole state, but that's not practical at this late date.)

The fact that the GOP was too dumb to insist on hand counts in heavy-Bush counties shouldn't matter to the Court, since the issue before them will center on unequal treatment of ballots, no matter how that came about.
 
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