What shotgun do I have?

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vince972

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I just got it because my girlsfriends grandpa doesn't know anything about it, not even hay size casing it
Takes... It's a pointer shotgun... Only
The ball sight in the front and like a revolver hammer in the back, the only thing it says on it is "pointer & gun" and there's a four letter serial or something under the trigger loop... It's a single shot shotgun and he said he tried a 12g case, an everything except 28g case... So anyone have any info on it??
 
Vince, look for this in the shotgun section... I will ask it be moved there as this section ain't the spot with the shotgun folks always checking...

Brent
 
Never heard of that make or model of shotgun, but I would just like to say you should never put a different size shotgun shell in the gun than what is intended for it.......
 
Well I just found on the barrel it says ec cal 12... When the hell did shotguns start sayin cal instead of gauge site only things it says is pointer&gun on the left side of the gun and underthe trigger loop it has a 4 letter serial number and on the barrel when u open the barrel up to load it it says ec then cal 12 but I put a 12 gauge round and it gets. Stuck in it and the extractor doesn't extract the shell, is that cause it hasn't fired that shell yet?? And I'm on my iPhone so I can post pics on here but if you have an email I can send pictures to whoever is trying to help me. Thanks in advance.
 
I took it to a sports authoritieS store and one of the guys that worked in the hunting department said from the way of the stock, it looks to be around from the year 1910 or something around that and he said it looks to be European.. So I have no clue what it shoots...
 
Vince:

Admittedly, I'm not an "old shotgun expert". However, I do know that our standard 12 ga. round of today - 2.75" (or 2-3/4") - was not always standard. In fact, I can't say there was a true standard length many years ago. Nonetheless, I think 2.625" (or 2-5/8") may have been popular, which is to say that the old 12 ga. rounds were, on average, shorter than ours today. If your chamber is indeed 12 ga., it may be bored/reamed for the shorter shell, which may explain why today's cartridge sticks.

Let me reiterate that I'm speculating here, as I really don't know. But here's something you could try. Take an empty (i.e. fired) 12 ga. shell and start trimming it down in length (a fine blade hacksaw works just dandy). See if a progressively shorter 12 ga. shell will eventually chamber. If it does, that may indicate a shorter 12 ga. chamber.

Side note: It's entirely possible that this is a shotgun designed and proofed for blackpowder. Regardless of whether you can find a shell that fits, please don't fire it until a good gunsmith has positively identified it and given it a good going over.

dogfood
 
So I think the consensus from experienced shot gunners is "WE AIN'T GOT NO CLUE BUT YOU NEED THE GUN SPEC'D BY A COMPETENT GUN SMITH BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO FIRE ANY SIZE ROUND AT THIS POINT!!!"

Brent
 
This may be a foolish question, but since you say its European and says cal., have you checked the barrel to see if it's rifled?
 
Your 12 gauge (or caliber, or bore) may be one of several different sized chambers. Just because a modern unfired shell may FIT, does NOT mean that is the size. A shotgun shell size is the FIRED length. Using the wrong size in an older gun can have some serious consequences, most of which involve injury or worse - get it to a GOOD gunsmith who KNOWS old shotguns and what to look for.
 
My cousin shoots guns like that, some use black powder only and have 2.5in shells. Best be carefull with that gun.
 
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