What of an international pro-gun group?

CCRKBA have opened a London-based European office, IIRC.

Also, some people over here in Germany are trying to found a lobby organisation that is geared towards fighting for the acceptance of the right to (armed) self-defense.

We already have contacts to like-minded people in Austria, Switzerland, Belgium and Greece.


Regards,

Trooper
 
Nothing wrong with "linking up" national organizations - but any international "gun rights" organization is likely to fall quickly to political subversion - one way or another. Every individual nation needs it's own separate organizations.

A central "global" organization lends credibility to the notion that such things can be "homogenized" and "negotiated enbloc" on an international scale. Any such dead horse would run square into the United Nations - which will never admit to such a thing as the right codified in our 2nd amendment. Never happen. It is not free from the growing infringements of our own goverment - and as time progresses there will be increasing pressure from the U.N. for much more.
 
Wel, the UN properly shirks from many a 'world law' that would necessarily run afoul of some member-states' sovereign laws, so yes, trying to impose RKBA on other nations is as odious as imposing a universal death-penalty or abortion law on all.

However...
there is PKBA


For example.
We in the Philippines don't have a 2A, but no elected official is crazy enough to propose making firearms-ownership illegal. The **cough** privilege of keeping and bearing arms can be just as useful as a codified 'right'.. (Filipinos can still purchase full auto and hi-cap, though it costs precious money and snail-pace paperwork) particularly when the full weight of a clearly-worded constitutional amendment seems to be less than a guarantee in the US.

Nobody's asking for a universal right-to-own/drive-cars, no?
No need.
But, trying to prevent the outlawing of a privilege/freedom may be do-able.
If so, an international federation of pro-KBA groups would not be without influence in the UN, and usefulness in the world.



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Hello, Horge. Welcome to The Firing Line! :)

You have an interesting point. I can understand that you would take comfort in having a privilege to KBA where no codified RIGHT exists. Many gun owners in my state are doing that right now by applying for the privilege of having a CCW license.

That said, just because a right isn't codified, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. :)
 
Nothing wrong with "linking up" national organizations - but any international "gun rights" organization is likely to fall quickly to political subversion - one way or another.
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But there should be some international coordination of protests, etc.

Amnesty, International is doing that now on other rights.
 
I think the international face of pro-KBA is useful in pre-empting UN meddling in sovereign matters, and is also useful as a point-to reference for local KBA groups (when promoting their respective causes to the public and to legislators).

However, just appointing the board of directors (or some such) for an international body from several countries will produce the politics that kills idealism: the most politically-skilled will win the critical posts, and political savvy = easy compromises.

Hopefully, some true believers are included.




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Thanks for the welcome, TheBluesMan :)
 
In the UK, the SDN has John Pate - a pro-freedom guy if I ever knew any, in Russia we have Vasilevski (who single-handedly founded their RKBA movment).
I'd think it andswers your fears, horge.
 
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