What have we here? James Bond carrying a revolver?

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Doug.38PR

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I am watching Live and Let Die on AMC and see Bond (Roger Moore) carring a rather large 6 shot revolver with a shoulder holster while rescuing Jane Seymour from the Voodoo tribe. What kind of gun is this. I couldn't get a close enough look.

Doug
 
model 29?

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Its amazing that we all see the same thing at the same time. The only problem I have, is that the gun used in the actual movie had a shorter barrel. He "pulled it out" on that lovely nubian CIA op. that wouldn't take Bond's overatures. It might have been a model 19 2 1/2" .357. At least it looked like one
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It definately wasn't the gun in the poster, although it's a great looking "gat"!
 
Its amazing that we all see the same thing at the same time. The only problem I have, is that the gun used in the actual movie had a shorter barrel. He "pulled it out" on that lovely nubian CIA op. that wouldn't take Bond's overatures. It might have been a model 19 2 1/2" .357. At least it looked like one
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Are you talking about when that black girl pointed the gun through the door and he burned her hand with a cigar and yanked her through the door? IDing herself as CIA he looked at her gun (not his) and said it was "a .38 special S&W." The gun did look like a 2 inch model 15, however it had a shrouded ejector rod which is more in common with the Model 19 (another movie goof I guess). Speaking of movie goofs, the next scene she points her (or the fisherman's) gun at a fisherman next to bond thinking he is a badguy. Bond says "he's with us." She apologizes and says, "I'm sorry, I could have killed you." He replies, "and you might have even shot me if you had had the safety lock off." (on a revolver?, this predates those stupid S&W locks by about 25 years)

But later in the movie BOND HIMSELF is carrying a 6 inch high caliber revolver, now IDed at a Model 29. I guess in addition to CIA agent Felix, he also has conections with Inspector Callahan and got it on loan from him after that mechanical armed guy bent his Walter PPK ;)
 
In the books, Fleming could really create confusion when he started talking about revolvers. Apparently somebody handed him a sten back in WWII and he became an instant expert on everything after that. People tried to advise him on guns and he responded by labeling them "nuts".
 
According to R.L. Wilson Fleming did own a Colt Official Police with 4" barrel. Evidently it was picked up by a collector in London in the late sixties. Hopefully that collector was from the United States because otherwise that OP is now just so much scrap metal. *Sigh*

As far as technical details in a James Bond movie. Well it is a James Bond movie.

Fleming was from the school of writing in which the hero gets a through and through from a 30 Luger or 30 Mauser. The hero then rolls to cover, lights a cigarette and calmly shoots back, plugging the bad guys with his 32 automatic at a distance of 50 yrds - while they're running in various directions. No infection, bleeding out or shock for that hero.

Fleming's novels always struck me as being more interested in sex and describing the good life that Bond gets to live. Stopping the bad guys almost seems like an afterthought in the novels. Sex, excellent booze, and high stakes gambling - that's a Bond novel.
 
If you want a cold war era spy novel which is fairly realistic about firearms I suggest you look at Donald Hamilton's Matt Helm series. Not to be confused with the Dean Martin movies of the same name.

I don't always agree with the author's firearms opinions. (He thinks the .38 Special is a tremendously powerful round, for instance).

Still, he knows his stuff. There is also sex, common grade booze, but not much gambling.

He carried the series a little too far, but the early books are really good. The first one, Death of a Citizen, is great.
 
Hamilton lived in New Mexico before the Californians moved into Santa Fe and took over. He was a big time hunter and wrote for some of the hunting magazines. His character prefered to do his assasinations with a .22 Woodsman
 
Following Sean Connery

is a tough job. Roger Moore's character in the Saint series was more of a "Dandy". Looking at that promo picture above, it looks like they use the revolver to make him look tough. Same goes for the Cigar. Big cigar, Big gun, you get the idea. :D
 
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Looking at that promo picture above, it looks like they use the revolver to make him look tough. Same goes for the Cigar. Big cigar, Big gun, you get the idea.
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Oh I get it. How does one do that drum thing in text? Hahahahahaha. :D
 
If I remember correctly, in the early Bond books (maybe "the spy who loved me") Bond used the PPK as a main carry gun and a 3" M10 Smith as a "large caliber backup gun". Ah, the european mentality..... ;)
 
I'm surprised no one else mentioned this, yet, but its the best I can contribute to the thead.

The producers gave Moore the revolver to break him from the earlier movies all starring Sean Connery. In Live and Let Die, he doesn't drink a vodka martini, and, if memory serves me, he doesn't introduce himself as "Bond. James Bond."
 
The producers gave Moore the revolver to break him from the earlier movies all starring Sean Connery.
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Well, apart from the end of that movie, that is the only part that he ever carrys a revolver as Roger Moore. The rest of the times in all his other movies he carrys the Walter PPK. In fact, it was almost considered his trademark gun among international spys in the movies. Christopher Lee as the Man With the Golden gun told Bond (Roger Moore) that he would be delighted to take him on with his Golden Gun vs. Bond's Walter PPK.
 
Actually Obiwan I think at least in the books and at least one early movie it was a Beretta .25 that was replaced with a .32 ppk
 
In the books, Bond had a "long-barelled Colt .45" in a special tray under the dash of his Bentley.

In a, "Life" feature, Fleming, who owned several revolvers and at least one auto (Ruger Mk. I .22) hefted a Colt New Service .45. I assume this is the gun he had in mind for the car.

The late Geoff Boothroyd ,who advised Fleming, told me in a letter that Fleming got letters from "nuts" who wanted to arm Bond with such things as cap and ball Remington .44's.

Lone Star
 
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