What Elected Officials Think Of Us(long)

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By Patrick Poole
A9 2000 WorldNetDaily.com


NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Civility on the part of public servants seems
to be wearing thin in Tennessee, as legislators, under pressure from
Gov. Don Sundquist to pass a state income tax, clash with voters who
have shown themselves to be overwhelmingly opposed to the measure.

As WorldNetDaily reported recently, Tennessee legislators have
been under a constant barrage of phone calls, e-mails and catcalls in
the hallways of the state Capitol since a bill that would have
implemented an income tax appeared on the verge of passing two weeks
ago. Tennessee is one of nine states without a state income tax.

But to many Tennesseans, the most disturbing aspect to the tax
battle has been the overt contempt shown them by some legislators for
having made their voices heard in regards to the state budget process.

One such incident, reported last week in the Murfreesboro Daily
News Journal, involved one the of the leading pro-income-tax
legislators, Rep. Mary Ann Eckles.

According to the news report, Eckles was approached during a
legislative recess by tax protestors David and Sandra Brunner, who said
they had brought their children to the tax rally for its educational
value. When the Brunners asked Eckles to vote against the proposed tax
increase, the legislator became agitated and stated, "The people of my
district are all for the income tax."

But when the Brunners stated that they lived in her district and
that they and many of their friends and co-workers were against the
state income tax, Eckles angrily replied, "The people of my district
don't know what they need. They haven't studied it like I have."

Eckles did not respond to requests by WorldNetDaily for comment
for this story.

In response to Eckles' comments, Sandra Brunner stated that it's
hard for legislators to believe that citizens can have intelligent
thoughts of their own.

"It seems to be OK when we blindly accept their take on all
issues, but then they blame the most outspoken and visible individuals,
like talk radio, for 'leading us astray' if anyone differs from their
viewpoint," she said.

Republicans are also reacting with dismay at the huge numbers of
constituents contacting their representatives through the new democratic

medium -- e-mail.

During a House floor session last Tuesday, Rep. Bob Patton derided

the efforts of those expressing their opinions on the income-tax issue.

"All those e-mails we get, I just wipe them off. I don't read
them. I'd like them to know they are wasting their time," he said.

Legislative contempt is nothing new for Tennesseans, who have seen

three attempts to pass a state income tax in the past 14 months. During
a special legislative session dedicated to the income tax issue last
November, Rep. Tommy Head, one of the leading state budget negotiators,
told an audience gathered for an income tax debate sponsored by a local
talk radio station that decisions on important state matters shouldn't
be left to the people, but rather to legislators.

"We don't need a referendum to make our decisions. We're the ones
who are supposed to be educated and know about the issues," Head said.

The phenomenon isn't exclusive to just to House members either.
After a constituent contacted Sen. Steve Cohen during last year's budget

battle, Cohen replied with a message left on the constituent's answering

machine inviting him to call back.

Thinking that the call had been disconnected, Cohen turned to an
aide and called his constituent an "S.O.B." and complained that the
constituent had used an 800 number that allowed him to connect to
legislators' offices toll-free.

Ironically, Cohen was the Senate sponsor of the legislation
authorizing the toll-free line to the state Capitol to increase
accessibility to legislators.

However, the constituent's answering machine was still recording
and captured Cohen's comments, a tape of which was passed off to a local

Memphis radio station. When confronted by reporters about his derogatory

comments, Cohen replied, "I felt no need to encourage additional
comments from this particular person."

The income tax is not the only issue to have generated legislative

ire over the past year. After several state legislators were caught by a

Nashville TV station's hidden camera accepting a free golf trip to the
Gulf Coast last year courtesy of a state contractor, Jack Morgan sent a
critical e-mail to his representative, Rep. Paul Phelan, one of the
offending legislators.

Nothing could have prepared Morgan for Phelan's blistering
response.

"Dear whatever your name is, I was on the plane with Ron Cooper
(the state contractor). Ron and I have been friends for 11 years. I've
been in the House for seven, you do the math, imbecile," Phelan wrote.

After letting loose a string of obscenities, Phelan said, "Why
don't you put your name on the ballot since you're so high and mighty.
Thank you for reminding me why it is important to run for re-election to

keep our state out of the hands of people like you."

He concluded his e-mail by saying, "My level of education allows
me to tolerate idiots like you."

However, it was Phelan who was soon getting an education in e-mail

technology from Morgan when Phelan's e-mail was forwarded to hundreds of

newspapers, radio and TV stations all across the state. After the
Associated Press reprinted the letter in its entirety on its news wire,
Phelan was forced to apologize.

In accepting Phelan's apology, Morgan cautioned state legislators
to remember that they were not elected to represent their own interests,

but rather those of voters.

"I would never have talked to him in such a manner. They work for
us. We don't work for them. A few of the fellows down there in Nashville

need to keep that in mind," he said.

But as Tennessee's tax battle winds to a close, relief seems to be

in sight for legislators.

Both houses passed a slimmed-down version of Sundquist's proposed
$18.2 billion budget on Thursday without any tax increases. Because the
measure doesn't include the state income tax, Sundquist has threatened
to veto it. But unlike most states, a mere 51 percent majority in both
houses is needed to override the governor's veto.

Legislators have to act before July 1, the end of the state's
fiscal year, to prevent a government shutdown. Consequently, final
action on the state budget is expected by the end of the week, but that
won't prevent another tax protest organized by Nashville talk radio
stations scheduled for later today at the state Capitol.

Only after the conclusion of the legislative session are
legislators, who face election primaries in August, allowed to begin
their reelection campaigns. All House members and half of the Senate are

up for reelection this year. Rather than face voters, several prominent
pro-income tax legislators have announced they will not be running
again, and many other legislative income-tax supporters have attracted
formidable opposition in November.
 
"The people of my district don't know what they need."

This seems to be the predominate attitude among government types these days. Very scary and dangerous. Sounds like it's time for some a** whoopin at the polls ASAP.
 
". . . Bob Patton derided the efforts of those expressing their opinions on the income-tax issue.
All those e-mails we get, I just wipe them off. I don't read them. I'd like them to know they are wasting their time," he said."

It's time for Mr. Patton to be "wiped off" (votewise).

What an arrogant snot!



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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
 
I posted this under General and nobody responded.

Its part of a disturbing trend. Congress has decided that you don't even know enough to buy the right toilet, so they've mandated that for you. They've decided that the Marriage Tax, which is absolutely atrocious, is OK to use as a political football type issue when what they should be doing, if they had ANY fear of taxpayer/citizen backlash, is repealing it as fast as they could. Instead they have nothing but contempt for the citizenry.

Its our own fault of course, but its irritating just the same. Nothing will change until we get "the party" out of Washington and elect 3rd party types.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Eckles angrily replied, "The people of my district don't know what they need...[/quote]

Here's hoping Eckles is proved wrong, as voters use the polls to tell her to battere la strada!

[This message has been edited by Slowpoke_Rodrigo (edited June 28, 2000).]
 
The reason, IMHO, is the power of incumbancy. And that power is there because we don't keep up enough with what they are doing in order to form an opnion to vote them in or out. We just vote name recognition.

Kick 'em out and write them letters AND email the sh!t out of them and they'll be singing a different tune.

madison46
 
My sister and her husband live in Pattons district and when she found out about it let him know in a hand written letter(since she now knows what he does with email), he had lost their votes since their thoughts did mean a tinkers damn to him. I will say that my rep. and senator in TN voted no against the income tax everytime and replied to every contact I made. They are also very pro-RKBA.

I voted for the the sorry a** thing in the gov's mansion when he promised no state income tax in the last election cycle. Want to kick myself in the butt everytime I think about it.
 
He concluded his e-mail by saying, "My level of education allows me to tolerate idiots like you."

Nice.. Can you say Elitist!! Reminds me of a friend of mine who went to his pistol permit safety class (required by the PRNYS) and said later about his classmates "I don't know if some of those people should be allowed to get a permit". There is definitely an attitude of "well it's good enough for me, but you're not as privileged as me!" and Politicians these days epitomize this.


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Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
 
These Congress persons don't care about the voters, they'd be just as happy in an aristocracy. They are not elitest, they are aristocrats,
 
Back during the debate over the assault weapon ban, I sent my congressman dozens of articles showing that their use in crime was negligible. His response was, "opponents of this legislation say these weapons are rarely used in crimes. I say why should we wait until they are frequently used?"

I also called my state legislator when there was discussion about a statewide ban. I tried to explain the difference between semi and full, and she said "I don't need to know that! My father was a police officer!"

BFD

Dick
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Monkeyleg:
I also called my state legislator when there was discussion about a statewide ban. I tried to explain the difference between semi and full, and she said "I don't need to know that! My father was a police officer!"

BFD

Dick
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Is that like the dude on TV that says he isn't a doctor but he plays one on TV? I guess that makes him able to perscribe drugs. There's a latin name for that argument, but it's been a while since I've taken a class in logic.
 
Dawg:
Fallacies of Relevance -
Fallacies that occur when something irrelevant to the question of truth is added to an argument in the attempt to prove it true. These fallacies simply appeal to what is irrelevant.
 
Sorry no URL for it.Sent to me but I will assume it is a few days old so check back .

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We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world;
and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men
every day who don't know anything and can't read.
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