(Western Australia) Women and Premier walk scared in town

Oatka

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Yet one more argument to show the Eloi.
http://www.sundaytimes.com.au/

Women and Premier walk scared in town

25jun00

MOST WA people want more police on our streets.

And eight out of 10 WA women are scared for their safety in the city after dark.
Even Premier Richard Court admits he is frightened by criminal elements in Forrest Place.

Three-quarters of the respondents – 74 per cent – believe WA does not have enough police on the streets and 64 per cent do not think the Government is doing enough to provide the best possible service.

The disquiet on police numbers is revealed in a news poll conducted by The Sunday Times.

Only 17 per cent of the 356 people surveyed believed the Court Government had provided the best police service.

The result comes amid an unprecedented police crisis – with officers demanding more men and better resources.

Premier Court said on air this week that he shopped in Perth regularly but the poor design of Forrest Place was a festering ground for anti-social behaviour.

Mr Court pledged to discuss with the City of Perth ideas to improve safety.

"We've got to make the city much more friendly than it currently is," he said.

Since December 1999, there have been 1609 thefts and 126 assaults in the Murray St and Hay St crime hotbeds. The WA Police Union wants 400 more officers, but Police Minister Kevin Prince says there is a four-year staffing freeze on police numbers – and Police Commissioner Matthews accepts that.

The announcement caused outrage at the annual Police Conference this week, where a detective said he was forced to throw away blood-splattered clothes after attending a crime scene – because no police-issue overalls were available.

Commissioner Barry Matthews later asked why he did not have them drycleaned.

Then the union said they were soiled by a two-week-old corpse – a smell that drycleaning could not remove.

Mr Matthews also pointed out that the officer involved got a clothing allowance.

The Commissioner has dismissed the union's case for more officers as "half-baked".

In the May budget, the Premier announced he would move 96 officers from courts and clerical areas back onto the streets.
 
Still not thinking I see. Even in the face of fear, they continue to beg big brother to "save me" from any dangers.

baaa baaaa baaa

CMOS

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NRA? Good. Now join the GOA!

The NRA is our shield, the GOA will be our sword.
 
Great!Disarm the law abiding citizen then freeze police numbers.Whose damn side are they on anyway??

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~Gordon~
 
With concealed carry verboten forever, and pistols all but unobtainable - and more importantly the culture VERY opposed to self defense, the latest gun bans didn't affect most people's security, even within their homes.
 
Well, this is my home town, so I guess I can speak on this ...

When you read this, it does sound pretty frightening, I admit, but ...

The part of Perth they're talking about is an area of perhaps 100 metres square. The criminal element is mainly (and I'm being brutally honest here) Aboriginal street kids (and European street kids, too), drunks and druggies. At night, it is simply an area wise people avoid. Unfortunately, they tend to spill over into the main city railway station at night; hence people avoid the trains.

The call for "more police" is a difficult one. Part of the problem is that, because of declining budgets, clerical staff in police stations are being taken away, and police officers have to do the work instead of policing. The cops don't like it and neither does the public. The call has been to get the police back "on the streets" in the sense of doing police work. This is despite the Premier's "promise" in the newspaper quote to get more clerical assistance. (My information is firsthand from a relative who is in "the job". His service revolver was also recalled months ago so he could be issued with a new Sigma -- he's still waiting. There are cases of cops going on the beat with no ammo for their sidearms because it's in such short supply. And they can't buy their own because they don't have a licence.)

CMOS
I couldn't agree more with your comments. We should (and some of us are) be demanding the "right" to protect ourselves using any means available, including firearms. Strangely enough, it is only the "older" generations (50+) that are calling for this; the "youngies" want the police "to take care of it". I'll defend my own and to hell with the consequences.

The issue has become a political hot potato, especially with the official release of the last 12 months' crime figures, which show a major increase Australia-wide in assault, kidnappings, gun homicides and armed robberies. (I'll post details in a separate thread.)

Battler, the "new" gun laws did make some difference in our homes -- at least to those who are law-abiding. This is mainly in the fact that my guns now are stored in a locked steel cabinet, disassembled, with bolt and ammo locked inside separately in another compartment. Should I need one in a hurry, I estimate it would take me a bare minimum of 4 to 4 1/2 minutes to retrieve the keys from their hiding place, unlock the safe, assemble the rifle, load and make ready. I could of course, keep a rifle out of the cabinet, with ammo handy. But then I would be in deep **** if, for example, there was a house fire and I had to leave hastily and the gun was found by the fire brigade to be not locked away. Can you see the difference?

The other stuff about the cops is what you'd expect from any bunfight between a union and its members employer at an annual union conference.

Hope this helps.

Bruce
 
This has an easy fix, arm all of the people, if teh police can't handle the job, and they are not legaly bound to do so, then they need to arm the law abiding population.

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"Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property...Horrid mischief would ensue were the law abiding deprived the use of them" --Thomas Paine, 1775



[This message has been edited by ChrisMkIV (edited June 29, 2000).]
 
Chris, stop being so sensible :rolleyes:.

CMOS ;)

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NRA? Good. Now join the GOA!

The NRA is our shield, the GOA will be our sword.
 
Bruce - what I meant, was:

While YOU may have been able to defend yourself with your trusty boltaction, the populace at large, even before the last ban, was mostly afraid of guns/didn't have them.


Battler.
 
You know a country is in deep PC guano when the papers refer to crime as "anti-social behaviour", and talk about the human right of being safe as making the city "much more friendly". Sheeesh.
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