Well, I used to like this guy.....

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Medic

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Just paging through the local paper and saw this.
http://citizen-times.com/cgi-bin/column.cgi?jb&0

Channeling with the Founding Fathers

JOHN BOYLE, COLUMNIST
Published 06/01/00

The Second Amendment: A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Only in Asheville, New Age capital of the universe, could a columnist have the opportunity to interview via seance the deceased founding fathers of our country about gun control and the Constitution. Had a great interview, by the way, even though they were a little out of touch with current events, not to mention a little moldy.

I told them about the 13-year-old militia soldier, apparently intent on keeping Florida free from British tyranny, who shot a teacher to death last week at his middle school. After being sent home for throwing water balloons in school, the boy shot the father of two in the head, authorities say. The seventh-grader, apparently tired of lugging around a heavy, long-gun musket similar to the one Charlton Heston hoisted overhead at the recent NRA convention in Charlotte, opted instead for a .25-caliber semi-automatic handgun.

"What's a semi-automatic handgun and why would a 13-year-old have one?" former President George Washington said.

It fires as fast as you can pull the trigger, I explained, adding that we've got plenty of guns in the United States these days - close to 200 million, including 65 million handguns.

I told them about how back in February in Flint, Mich., a 6-year-old boy angry at classmate Kayla Rolland, shot and killed her with a semi-automatic flintlock pistol. That was shocking to the fathers.

"Why would a 6-year-old be allowed to take his militia-issue firearm and take it to school?" Ben Franklin chimed in. "Was the little girl a Brit?"

They looked mortified when they heard about a 13-year-old boy who was apparently defending Fort Gibson, Okla., from the Redcoats last December and brought a 9mm semiautomatic muzzle-loader to his middle school. He fired into a group of classmates, injuring five of them.

"I'm confused," said Constitution author James Madison, also a former president. "Were the classmates British subversives trying to infiltrate the school and then the state? And how could he fire so many shots so quickly? It takes at least 30 seconds to reload even the finest, most modern firearms."

I reeled off a list of 17 school shootings between 1996 and 1999 that left 35 students and teachers dead. Most involved semi-automatic handguns.

"How can the students get hold of these handguns so easily?" Washington asked.

You don't want to hear this, I said, but it's because of the Second Amendment. They didn't understand why "well-regulated" militias needed so many guns and why so many young people use them, especially when each state has a National Guard. They couldn't believe that in 1997, 32,436 Americans died in firearm-related deaths., including 12,942 murders.

"Is there a war on?" Jefferson asked.

In a way, I said.

"You know, 220 years ago we never envisioned a world like this," he said.

John Boyle's column appears on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Contact him at 232-5847, or JBoyle@CITIZEN-TIMES.com

I,ve informed him of my feelings... Thoughts from anyone else, please share them with Mr. Boyle as well.

Medic



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Aww cr@p, just found this too. I'm going to quit reading this thing.
http://citizen-times.com/cgi-bin/back_ltrs_to_ed.cgi?BackDays=1&Section=editorial

Letters to the Editor
FOR WEDNESDAY MAY 31, 2000


A little fuzzy on 'well-regulated militia'?

Amendment 2: "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." Charlton Heston asks, what part of the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed" do you not understand? I would put the question to him, "How many NRA members are armed in order to be a part of a well-regulated militia?" That phrase implies regulations as set down in state or federal law. It would not include, as legitimized by the 2nd Amendment the outlaw bands of unregulated militias that inhabit the wilderness areas of many states. So, Charlton Heston, what part of "well-regulated militia" do you not understand?

Dorothy Kirschbaum, Asheville

Hard not to tie guns to deaths

Where does (guest columnist Don Noakely) get the idea that, prior to 1960, most families had guns and that, at age 5, children were taught to shoot? Perhaps it was in rural areas but definitely not in urban or suburban locales. Criminal youths had to construct "zip guns." In 1969 there were 76 million guns as compared to today's 230 million - a 200 percent-plus increase. How does the writer account for the fact that European nations, exposed to the same movies, music and television that we are (and who go to church less often) have fewer people killed in a year that we do in five days (400)? Could it be that they don't have guns?

Joseph Haley, Hendersonville

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I guess these two aren't THAT bad considering they're only individual opinions from a couple of the numerous mentally cahllenged that reside in the area, but s***-fire and save the matches, if you mention one little-single-solitary pro-gun comment around here and it's snarl-snarl, hiss-hiss.

Medic


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[This message has been edited by Medic (edited June 01, 2000).]
 
It's so hard to even know where to start with this one. So much overwrought idiotic nonsense in such a small column. His stupidity works on so many levels all at once.

I'll have to give this some thought and come up with something really good.
 
Talking to the dead and them answering him.I think this guy either has taken too many hits of acid or he is mentaly ill. Needs help badly.

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We have a criminal jury system which is superior to any in the world;
and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men
every day who don't know anything and can't read.
-Mark Twain
 
These idiots always quote the constitution the way they want to. Each state also has its own constitution and all but I believe 2 have basically the same words. Indianas state constitution says in it the right to bear arms are for the protection of ones self and property, and then it says for the state militia. It was written in the early 1860's well after the U.S. constitution. The founders of the state looked back after 70 years and said they didn't go far enough and put in the words for ones self protection, and I believe many other states did the same. All of them, doing so way after the U.s. constitution was written.

This only proves what our founding fathers meant when they wrote shall not be infringed, they didn't expect that the press and politicians would be so stupid. Boy were they wrong and I am sure they are rolling in their graves at this moment!

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"We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force."

--Ayn Rand, in "The Nature of Government"

[This message has been edited by hoosierboy (edited June 02, 2000).]
 
Medic, you should understand, first and foremost, that virtually all the media are owned and controlled by the Marxist Socialists, and the people who work for them, follow the Party line, or they do not work. This guy is following his Marxist brainwashing, pure and simple. He is one of V.I. Lenin's "useful idiots."

Anyone reading newspapers who wonder why they might be pushing the communistnazi line, just look at the masthead, and you'll almost always see that the paper is owned by one of the gigantic syndicates, each and every one being headed by the Marxists.

FWIW.
 
"...a list of 17 school shootings between 1996 and 1999 that left 35 students and teachers dead. Most involved semi-automatic handguns."

I haven't seen any stats like this that were ante-Clinton. Why are these folks just now coming out of the closet?

I have to wonder about people who talk to dead folks. Doesn't seem normal somehow.
 
TMoney: "I have to wonder about people who talk to dead folks. Doesn't seem normal somehow."

Quite simply, putting words into someone's mouth when that someone is dead is a fun, easy method of insinuating that the dead person agrees with you.

Why, I've had folks that have long been gone agreeing with me for years!

Regards
 
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