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Webb Aide Arrested For Taking Gun Into Senate Building

Monday , March 26, 2007

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WASHINGTON —
U.S. Capitol Police arrested a top aide to Sen. Jim Webb on Monday after he tried to enter a Senate office building carrying a loaded pistol and two fully loaded magazines that belonged to the senator.

Phillip Thompson sent a bag through the X-ray machine at Russell Senate Office Building, where Webb's office is located. It detected the weapon and Capitol Police say they determined that Thompson didn't have a license to carry the gun in Washington, D.C. Thompson was arrested and charged with carrying a pistol without a license and possession of an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition.

A senior Democratic aide said Webb gave the bag that contained the gun to Thompson when the aide drove the senator to the airport. Thompson said he forgot it was in the bag when he took it into the office building.

"To our knowledge, this incident was an oversight by the senator’s aide. Phillip Thompson is a former Marine, a long-term friend and trusted employee of the senator. We are still awaiting facts," Webb Communications Director Jessica Smith said in a statement.

Thompson, a former military reporter based in Virginia, joined the senator's staff after Webb was elected to office in November. He travels frequently with the senator.

Handguns are illegal in Washington, D.C., but nearby Virginia allows residents to carry concealed handguns. Capitol Police rules allow members and their employees to bring a weapon onto Capitol grounds if it is unloaded and securely wrapped. In this case, it was neither.

Webb told The Richmond Times Dispatch in December that he considers himself a "strong Second Amendment person" but said he does not carry a gun to work.

"I don't carry personally regularly. I shoot regularly. I like to have the option to carry, which is why I keep the permit," he said. "I value the opportunity to be able to protect myself, depending on situations. But no, I don't walk around with a weapon on me all of the time," he told the newspaper.

Click here to read The Richmond Times Dispatch interview.

FOX News' Jim Angle and Trish Turner contributed to this report.

Gotta love this one. You work for a US Senator. He gives you a bag at the airport to take to his office. You do and get arrested for it.

I wonder if he knew what was in it? Best bet would be for his legal counsul to say "No, it was the property of a US Senator and being returned to his office."

I would never put any bag through security anywhere that I had not packed myself.
 
Thompson said he forgot it was in the bag when he took it into the office building.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! Wrong answer!

The correct answer is "This bag belongs to Senator Webb and he entrusted it to my care to return it to his office. I did not know the contents at the time he handed it to me. You will have to speak to the senator on this."
 
Sen. Webb aide arrested for carrying gun into US office building

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/27/webb.aide.gun/

Apparently an aide to Senator Webb (D-Virginia) accidentally carried a handgun belonging to the Senator into the "Russell Senate Office Building." It sounds like the gun was found during a routine search. He spent the night in jail, but it looks like they're not going to prosecute.

I'm all for Sen. Webb having/carrying a weapon, but I'm disappointed in his quote "Since 9/11, for people who are in government, I think in general, there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time." First, I think it's crap to invoke 9/11, since politicians have been assassinated since the beginning of time, and a handgun wouldn't have helped protect the Pentagon or the WTC. Second, I believe that a true Second Amendment supporter does not ascribe to government officials any special right to defend themselves beyond what all citizens are entitled to.
 
What does Webb pack?

Does anyone know what kind of gun it was that Sen. Webb's aide inadvertently attempted to carry into the capitol? Enquiring minds...
 
I'm trying to find out too. Haven't seen it reported in the papers yet. Maybe I'll ask one of the Cap Cops tomorrow.

I thought it was interesting to note that D.C. residents can't even own a gun, post 1977, but the 535 members of Congress can take one anywhere they like in the District - except the Floor of the House and Senate so I'm told.
 
Webb is denying that he gave the firearm to the aide. I guess he will be letting his guy twist in the wind. Typical for a Democrat on a firearm issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,261583,00.html

WASHINGTON — Virginia Sen. Jim Webb said Tuesday he did not give aide Phillip Thompson the gun that led to his arrest in a Senate office building. Webb did not say whether it was his gun.

Webb said he has been in New Orleans since Friday and returned Monday night. He said that he couldn't talk about the case because of the legal proceedings and his desire not to prejudice the situation. But then he denied any role in the alleged felony.

"We had three cars on Friday that were being moved about because of my trip, and that is probably a reason that this inadvertent situation developed. And that's really the extent to which I think I should be discussing. That's really all I can say," Webb told reporters.

Thompson, 45, was arraigned Tuesday in D.C. Superior Court after being arrested a day earlier for trying to enter the Russell Senate Office Building — where Webb's office is located — carrying a loaded pistol and two fully loaded magazines.

Webb's executive assistant was released on his own reconnaissance after he pleaded not guilty to charges of carrying a pistol without a license and possession of an unregistered firearm and unregistered ammunition. Thompson spent the night in a D.C. jail after U.S. Capitol Police determined Monday that he did not have a license to carry a gun in Washington, D.C., where only law enforcement officials are allowed to carry handguns.

A report filed by the arresting officer said Thompson was arrested after he placed his black briefcase on the X-ray machine. The assisting operator noticed what looked like a gun and two magazines on the X-ray screen.

"The defendant stated that he was in possession of a pistol and two magazines belonging to Senator Jim Webb. The defendant further stated that he inadvertently left the gun that he was safekeeping from the previous days," wrote Officer Elizabeth Langley. The report notes that "the weapon was test-fired and is operable."

Thompson has hired attorney Richard Gardiner to represent him. Gardiner, who said he was hired after a friend of a friend recommended him to the defendant, met Thompson for the first time earlier Tuesday. He said Thompson was "fine" but hungry.

According to court documents, Thompson celebrated his birthday in jail and away from his wife and two kids. He entered the courtroom Tuesday looking very disheveled and wearing a stone-faced expression. He was handcuffed at the legs, had no belt and one pants button was unbuttoned.

Magistrate Judge Ringelle scheduled Thompson to appear before the court on May 1 at 9 a.m. EDT for a preliminary hearing.

A senior Democratic aide said Monday evening that Thompson forgot that he had the weapon when he sent the senator's bag through the X-ray machine at the office building. The aide said Webb gave the bag that contained the gun to Thompson when Thompson drove the senator to the airport.

Thompson, a former military reporter based in Virginia, joined the senator's staff at the beginning of Webb's Senate campaign. Webb was elected to office in November. Thompson travels frequently with the senator.

Asked what support the senator was giving to his aide, Webb told FOX News, "We're doing all we can.

"I want to emphasize, first of all, that Phillip Thompson is a long-time friend. He's a fine individual. ... I have a tremendous amount of respect for him," Webb told reporters. "I think this is one of those very unfortunate situations where, completely inadvertently, he took the weapon into the Senate yesterday."

Webb also shot down rumors that he carries a gun in the Capitol complex. According to one former special assistant to the House sergeant-at-arms, lawmakers are exempt from rules that prohibit staff, visitors and others from carrying concealed weapons on Capitol grounds. Ed Bailor, a former Capitol Police investigator, said in his 32 years on the force he never heard of a senator or representative carrying a concealed weapon.

"I believe that it's important — it's important for me, personally, and for a lot of people in the situation that I'm in, to be able to defend myself and my family," Webb said. "Since 9/11 for people who are in government I think in general there has been an agreement that it's a more dangerous time. Again, I'm not going to comment, again, with great specificity about how I defend myself, but I do feel that I have that right."

Handguns are illegal in Washington, D.C., but nearby Virginia allows residents to carry concealed handguns. Capitol Police rules allow members and their employees to bring a weapon onto Capitol grounds if it is unloaded and securely wrapped. In this case, it was allegedly neither.

Webb said he is a big supporter of the constitutional right to bear arms and thinks Virginia's concealed handgun law is a "fair law."

"Everyone here knows that I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, that I have had a permit to carry a weapon in Virginia for a long time," he said.

Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska, supports a repeal of the D.C. handgun ban. City officials are petitioning to have the case go before the full U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Colombia after a three-judge panel of the court ruled earlier this month that the ban is unconstitutional. Stevens said the incident demonstrates "our position that we ought to have the right to bear arms, if we need to."

Stevens told FOX News that he kept a "gun in the car from time to time, before they passed that stupid law," banning handguns in the district. He said he used to keep one in his office until his staff bullied him to get rid of it. Stevens recalled that the late conservative Sen. Barry Goldwater "had a gun with him all the time ... had it with him in his car; had a holster right between his legs."

FOX News' Jim Angle, Trish Turner and FOXNews.com's Gregory Simmons contributed to this report.
 
Typical for a Democrat on a firearm issue.

While we're on the character assasination end, Jim Webb can't hold a marriage together and his current wife is way younger than him. And my sister knows his brother and she tells me that nobody likes Webb jr.
 
Sen. Webb says

he did not give aide his gun

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Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) said Tuesday that he did not give staffer Phillip Thompson the pistol whose possession got the aide arrested Monday when he tried to enter the Russell Senate office building. “I have never carried a gun in the Capitol complex and I did not give the weapon to Phillip Thompson, and that’s all that I think I’ll say,” Webb told reporters.

“I think this is one of those very unfortunate situations where, completely inadvertently, he took the weapon into the Senate yesterday,” Webb added. The senator noted that he was in New Orleans from Friday until Monday. He speculated that the incident happened because three of his cars were moved because of the trip.

Webb also pointed out that he could not go into too many specifics because Thompson is being arraigned Tuesday.

However, the senator made some broad points related to the incident, including his support for gun rights.

“Everyone here knows that I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, that I have had a permit to carry a weapon in Virginia for a long time, and I believe that it’s important — it’s important for me, personally, and for a lot of people in the situation that I’m in, to be able to defend myself and my family.”
 
Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) said Tuesday that he did not give staffer Phillip Thompson the pistol whose possession got the aide arrested Monday when he tried to enter the Russell Senate office building. “I have never carried a gun in the Capitol complex and I did not give the weapon to Phillip Thompson, and that’s all that I think I’ll say,” Webb told reporters.


And Clinton did not inhale nor did he have a relationship with that Lewinsky women either. :eek:
 
Handguns are illegal in Washington, D.C., but Capitol Police rules allow members and their employees to bring a weapon onto Capitol grounds if it is unloaded and securely wrapped.

How does that work? So the "Capitol Police" have the power to override the legislature of the District (which happens to be the U.S. House of Representatives)? That's a topsy-turvy world favoring those elite "members", if you ask me.

But the story is getting better - if the aide did this without the Senator knowing anything about it, let alone authorizing it, or carrying on the Senator's behalf, and it's a violation of law, surely this aide is going to be promptly fired, right?

And what, praytell, is the good Senators record on gun rights issues? In that article he is quoted as calling himself a "strong second amendment supporter", but IIRC, Mr. John Kerry referred to himself the same way, and he voted for every gun ban scheme to ever come down the pike.

Stevens told FOX News that he kept a "gun in the car from time to time, before they passed that stupid law," banning handguns in the district. He said he used to keep one in his office until his staff bullied him to get rid of it.

Wow, Mr. Stevens, what is the statute of limitations on that crime you're admitting to (unconstitutional as that law may be).

Time for this Mr. Thompson to join the Appellant in the D.C. case, on the Petition for Rehearing En Banc.
 
I'm trying to find out too. Haven't seen it reported in the papers yet. Maybe I'll ask one of the Cap Cops tomorrow.

The only thing I've been able to glean is that it was accompanied by 2 magazines therefore it's probably a semi, BUT given the quality of reporting when it comes to guns, it could be anything!
 
lawmakers are exempt from rules that prohibit staff, visitors and others from carrying concealed weapons on Capitol grounds.

The commoners are obviously not exempt. Special rules for special people.
 
and why does this man deserve to go to jail and lose a large portion of his life?

(for carrying a gun?) Doesn't sound right does it.
 
lawmakers are exempt from rules that prohibit staff, visitors and others from carrying concealed weapons on Capitol grounds.
The commoners are obviously not exempt. Special rules for special people.

First, I'll say I'm not entirely sure of the ins and outs of whether lawmakers are allowed legally to possess handguns in DC...but based on Webb's reactions in the case it certainly seems that they are not.

That said, an interesting quote from Slate.com regarding the case:
Slate.com said:
Webb's silence increases the suspicion that he either has broken or continues to break the D.C. law, more or less daring the local authorities to do anything about it. That could be posturing; as Dana Milbank points out in the March 28 Washington Post, nobody ever lost a vote in the state of Virginia by thumbing his nose at gun control. Legally, though, Webb's evasiveness constitutes probable cause, entitling the next D.C. cop Webb encounters within city limits (but outside the Capitol) to frisk him. That's probably the last thing D.C.'s new mayor, Adrian Fenty, and his new chief of police, Cathy Lanier, would like to see happen. I therefore recommend that Fenty or Lanier phone Webb and ask the senator straight out whether he intends in the future to obey D.C.'s gun laws. (Figuring out whether Webb has broken these laws in the past is the job of Thompson's prosecutors.) If Webb answers anything other than "yes," then Lanier should dispatch a police officer to frisk Webb at the senator's next public appearance outside the Capitol. If Webb is carrying a handgun, that police officer should arrest him. Sounds absurd, I know. But how can the D.C. government do otherwise while on a daily basis it arrests less-well-dressed young black men for the very same offense?
Despite the obvious anti-gun slant, I can't help but agree with the sentiment regarding whether or not he should be "above" the law.

If there's one thing I like less than handgun bans, it's handgun bans that are enforced based on socioeconomic status.
 
Where in the hell did that come from????

It's an online liberal rag...I'm guessing they felt the need to throw everything but the kitchen sink in there. I still felt the overall message was interesting, but there's a reason I referred to "socioeconomic status" instead of race. I'm sure plenty of poor white men have been arrested in DC for weapons violations, too. Or middle-class white men, even. Pretty much everybody but Senators and others that operate on a different plane than you or I.
 
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