Don't use that shell shot stuff in ur .45 rev. I was shooting up some old ammo using my Vaqureo and had a few shell shots. I loaded a couple along with std. ball acp and the first shell shot fired but the gun jammed,couldn't move anything (hammer,cyl) I had to force the cyl. out and remove the shell shot case. It appears as the case pushed back or swelled and bound the cyl. Didn't repeat the process.......threw the shell shot stuff away. Put the cyl.. back in and loaded up with 45acp and all's ok.
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jjmorgan64
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Nope CCI sells shotsshells in 45 colt. they work fine in my Vaquero
CCI sells shotshells in a number of calibers, only the 45 ACP is marked "not for use in revolvers". The case itself is loaded differently, with an extended aluminum case that "approximates" the shape of a loaded bullet, with the shot charge covered with a thin plastic cover. Upon firing this cover disintegrates, allowing the 117 gr of #9 shot to go downrange. In a revolver the shot can get lodged in the flashgap, locking up the revolver. The 45 ACP load is designed to work in auto loaders ONLY for this reason.
In the CCU loads MADE for revolvers, the shot is contained in a plastic sabot/cup that breaks open only after it leaves the barrel completely.
The 9mm load seems to be made like the revolver loads, but I wouldn't use it in a revolver either. (64 gr of #11 shot)
In the CCU loads MADE for revolvers, the shot is contained in a plastic sabot/cup that breaks open only after it leaves the barrel completely.
The 9mm load seems to be made like the revolver loads, but I wouldn't use it in a revolver either. (64 gr of #11 shot)
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CCI shot shells in .45 colt selling at midway. $8.10 for a box of 10
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.45 colt shot shells at midway
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.45 colt shot shells at midway
Another possibility might be the pressures encountered with shotshells.
I could imagine the primer backing out of the primer pocket and binding up the action.
With normal ammunition, the rearward pressure of the case during detonation causes the casehead to slam against the breechface, pressing the primer back into the pocket. I don't think a shotshell has quite enough pressure to do that.
I could imagine the primer backing out of the primer pocket and binding up the action.
With normal ammunition, the rearward pressure of the case during detonation causes the casehead to slam against the breechface, pressing the primer back into the pocket. I don't think a shotshell has quite enough pressure to do that.
I think the reason the .45 ACP shotshells bind in a revolver has to do with cartridge setback. When you fire the cartridge, it "backs" into the recoil shield. On straightwalled pistol cartridges, no problem; as soon as the pressure drops, the cartridge can return to position (or, at least, it's not still pressed against the shield). In the "stepped" shot cartridge, as the round discharges, the case is pressed against the recoil shield and the "step" is "moved forward" to the chamber shoulder. This prevents the case from moving forward, leaving it solidly wedged against the recoil shield.
I seem to recall this setback issue also caused problems for S&W with its revolver chambered for the .22 Jet (a necked-down .357 round).
I seem to recall this setback issue also caused problems for S&W with its revolver chambered for the .22 Jet (a necked-down .357 round).
Have heard people having the cylinders stuck when they load up with all shotshells as the inertial force make the plastic capsule move outward binding the cylinder. I usually only have 1 to 2 loaded as the first 2 shots for snakes and the rest loaded with lead on my 45LC or 357 Mag.
When I first got my Model 28 N frame, I brought a couple boxes of CCI Blazer .38 special FMJ I had to test it with. I had quite a frustrating day. The aluminum cases kept slipping back and binding the cylinder. It took me a while to figure that it was the ammo. Since then I've only shot brass cased ammo and never had another bit of trouble with the gun.
MeekAndMild
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I've had the same problem with super light reloads in a .44. Unless there is enough pressure to force the case back when it goes off, the primers will protrude and jam the cylinder. I'd be willing to bet that snake shot is a very light load. 
Dr. Rob,
Great explanation and photos. Thanks. Just as I was starting to wonder why CCI would not want you shooting .357/38 shotshells in a revolver??? Your reply answered the question. I inherited a bunch of these shotshells from Karli's dad...I wish they'd have been regular ammo...I have no use for these! I'm not in rattlesnake country. Oh well, a novelty item I guess.
Bob
Great explanation and photos. Thanks. Just as I was starting to wonder why CCI would not want you shooting .357/38 shotshells in a revolver??? Your reply answered the question. I inherited a bunch of these shotshells from Karli's dad...I wish they'd have been regular ammo...I have no use for these! I'm not in rattlesnake country. Oh well, a novelty item I guess.
Bob