redlightrich
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Hello All, Happy Easter to those who celebrate!!!
Below is a re-post from a different site. I am not getting enough insight from them. I am having the darndest time. Keep in mind, I am using Kimber top and bottom ends. I have mic'ed them out, and slide/frame clearance is .0065 to .0075 ( depending on my combination of slide/frame. The slide moves freely on the frame. I have checked the disco, and even tried lowering the MS to 17 pounds which made things worse ( I think the slide was outrunning the mag at that point).
Anyway, below is my long winded question. I have kept a journal for over a year and a half, and I am now certain that the temperature is key. If I leave my gun, and mags in direct sunlight, on a warm day, the gun is unstoppable. It will shoot any junk you can load into it. 36,38, 40 grain, Hollow, Round Nose, HV, SV, doesn't matter. It is dead reliable when hot.
This is my re-post from a rimfire type site. Unfortunately the best experience there is rifle related.
Hello all, I have a few Kimber 1911's with Rimfire Conversion kits also by Kimber on them. I have several kits ( black and silver and multiples of same) at any rate, what I am finding is when the weather is above 75 degrees, these guns run flawlessly. If I get any failures at all, it is a surprise. The warmer it is, the better they run.
If the weather dips between 70 and 40, they start to develop Failure to Feed, such as pull trigger, click, rack slide, note empty chamber, release slide and pull trigger again and bang. This happens often. I usually note, when the chamber is empty that the round did not rise enough in the mag.
Drop the temp below 40 and the gun isn't even worth using. It acts like a single shot repeater.
When it is cold, ammo makes no difference. Yes I tried, CCI HV 40 grain round nose does not help. Neither do Remginton Golden 40G HV round nose. These 2 ammo types usually will cycle the most stubborn 22.
When it is warm, it will cycle most any ammo, including good quality standard velocity.
I have kept a "journal" since I purchased these, and the temperature is the key.
My question is what is changing for the better in the warmth? The slide, being aluminum will expand ( probably to a greater degree than the steel frame)giving greater clearances, the mags will also expand ( possibly allowing the rounds to feed up more freely, in severe cold, there where times when I would rack the slide, hold it rearward, and observe as the round would slowly climb up the mag) or can it be the lube on the ammo itself?
I always lube the slide rails and disco and other contact points with Hoppes gun/reel oil which is very lightweight.
Is there something I am overlooking? Should I run them dry in the cold? Meaning no lube at all?
If these guns weren't so enjoyable to me when it runs well in the warm weather, I would have already given up. They are accurate and well balanced, and I just plain like shooting it.
If anyone has experienced this, or has any ideas as to why I have this issue, please let me know. The reason I don't think it is the ammo is because I usually bring a few different guns to the range, and when the Kimbers won't run, I use the same ammo successfully in other guns.
I would love to make this gun reliable year round. I would hate to relegate it to spring and summer use only. Yes, I usually shoot outdoors. The problem would not exist if I only shot at an indoor range as it never gets that cold inside. Please note, I have several Kimber bottom ends so there are times I bring multiple Kimbers to the range and they all react the same.
Thank you for any ideas you can offer
Rich
Below is a re-post from a different site. I am not getting enough insight from them. I am having the darndest time. Keep in mind, I am using Kimber top and bottom ends. I have mic'ed them out, and slide/frame clearance is .0065 to .0075 ( depending on my combination of slide/frame. The slide moves freely on the frame. I have checked the disco, and even tried lowering the MS to 17 pounds which made things worse ( I think the slide was outrunning the mag at that point).
Anyway, below is my long winded question. I have kept a journal for over a year and a half, and I am now certain that the temperature is key. If I leave my gun, and mags in direct sunlight, on a warm day, the gun is unstoppable. It will shoot any junk you can load into it. 36,38, 40 grain, Hollow, Round Nose, HV, SV, doesn't matter. It is dead reliable when hot.
This is my re-post from a rimfire type site. Unfortunately the best experience there is rifle related.
Hello all, I have a few Kimber 1911's with Rimfire Conversion kits also by Kimber on them. I have several kits ( black and silver and multiples of same) at any rate, what I am finding is when the weather is above 75 degrees, these guns run flawlessly. If I get any failures at all, it is a surprise. The warmer it is, the better they run.
If the weather dips between 70 and 40, they start to develop Failure to Feed, such as pull trigger, click, rack slide, note empty chamber, release slide and pull trigger again and bang. This happens often. I usually note, when the chamber is empty that the round did not rise enough in the mag.
Drop the temp below 40 and the gun isn't even worth using. It acts like a single shot repeater.
When it is cold, ammo makes no difference. Yes I tried, CCI HV 40 grain round nose does not help. Neither do Remginton Golden 40G HV round nose. These 2 ammo types usually will cycle the most stubborn 22.
When it is warm, it will cycle most any ammo, including good quality standard velocity.
I have kept a "journal" since I purchased these, and the temperature is the key.
My question is what is changing for the better in the warmth? The slide, being aluminum will expand ( probably to a greater degree than the steel frame)giving greater clearances, the mags will also expand ( possibly allowing the rounds to feed up more freely, in severe cold, there where times when I would rack the slide, hold it rearward, and observe as the round would slowly climb up the mag) or can it be the lube on the ammo itself?
I always lube the slide rails and disco and other contact points with Hoppes gun/reel oil which is very lightweight.
Is there something I am overlooking? Should I run them dry in the cold? Meaning no lube at all?
If these guns weren't so enjoyable to me when it runs well in the warm weather, I would have already given up. They are accurate and well balanced, and I just plain like shooting it.
If anyone has experienced this, or has any ideas as to why I have this issue, please let me know. The reason I don't think it is the ammo is because I usually bring a few different guns to the range, and when the Kimbers won't run, I use the same ammo successfully in other guns.
I would love to make this gun reliable year round. I would hate to relegate it to spring and summer use only. Yes, I usually shoot outdoors. The problem would not exist if I only shot at an indoor range as it never gets that cold inside. Please note, I have several Kimber bottom ends so there are times I bring multiple Kimbers to the range and they all react the same.
Thank you for any ideas you can offer
Rich