WOW, I am impressed! That thread ran the whole gamut http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/forums/showthread.php?threadid=23934 (link added, DC)
For those that are new or just running accrossed this for the first time here is the down and dirty....Last week I discovered that HCI was using a blurred version of a Beretta 92F/96F on it's website (www.handguncontrol.org) Being a Loyal Beretta owner and a Second Amendment Advocate I posted My objection here (Want to piss off HCI?..) knowing that HCI did not have permission from Beretta to use it's famous pistol as it's posterchild for gun control I encouraged my fellow compatriots here on TFL to call Beretta Legal Offices @ 301-283-2191 ask for the legal Dept and express thier concern. Beretta has the legal teeth to take on HCI We just need to point that Rottweiler in the right direction! Encourage others until that gun is removed and they put another one in there, then we start the process over, (That is if they are that dumb) Additionally Keith Rogan came up with an E-mail address for Beretta's Leadership forum malbert@berettausa.com and I Encouraged Everyone to E-mail as well as call! Our response was overwhelming, some members including myself took the post to other boards and spread the word even further ( thanks Keith and Solo! and Anyone else for that matter.) The Word spread Like wildfire and Beretta was inundated with phone calls and e-mails which caused them to take action (See the large Disclaimer on Beretta's website www.berettausa.com) They have the corporate might to do it so we need to encourage them. HCI's only response to this whole thing was to take down their site for the better part of a day and Clarify their position....They made the Beretta 92 highly distinguishable! No mistaking it now!! We continued to cry foul and it appears that Beretta is Taking or at least preparing Legal action.... Oh yeah I got a great looking certificate and a nomination for President.. LOL that brings us to date!
This whole thing is getting HUGE I am seeing a great response on other sites as well, none quite so large as the TFL however! Let me encourage you one more time CALL and E-mail not only to let Beretta Know that you are upset that HCI can Blatently use their Highly respected handgun as a poster child for gun control but to encourage them as well, let them know that this is a precedent setting situation and the whole world is watching their next move! Also let them know that you will gladly stand behind them in their efforts to get their Handgun off of HCI's page!! HCI Basically snubbed their nose at Beretta by clearing up that picture so it sounds as though the gloves are off!
I have also brought over one of my last posts...Couldn't find an E-mail for HCI however here is their Address and Phone Number. Distasteful as it may be to see that phone number appear on your phone bill it is but a small price to pay considering what we have to lose. Call them and let them have it, Stay reasonable and ensure that they know that you will Support Beretta in whatever Action they decide to take against them. Let them know that you are sending the NRA a donation to further OUR cause!! Let them know that you are sick of thier ravings and it has to end. Copy that letter to HCI I wrote and use that as a reference or mail it to them etc etc...
Director of Development ( hell Put Sarah Brady's name here)
Center to Prevent Handgun Violence
1225 Eye Street, NW, Suite 1100
Washington, DC 20005
(202) 289-7319
Ugh!
And finally that brings us to GWINNY's Question. If you put your name and return address on it they KNOW who to remove off of their mailing list so you can only pull that off once No name they cannot remove you and you will continue to receive their Pre paid Envelopes allowing you to mail them another letter on their dime etc etc etc. I know others are concerned for other reasons but that is one major one...Back to the trenches..
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...“ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” --Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.
..."The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." --Thomas Jefferson
... "The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are constitutional rights secure." Albert Einstein
... "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction."Ronald Reagan
Take care and God Bless, El Jefe
[This message has been edited by El Jefe (edited September 16, 1999).]
[This message has been edited by DC (edited September 23, 1999).]
For those that are new or just running accrossed this for the first time here is the down and dirty....Last week I discovered that HCI was using a blurred version of a Beretta 92F/96F on it's website (www.handguncontrol.org) Being a Loyal Beretta owner and a Second Amendment Advocate I posted My objection here (Want to piss off HCI?..) knowing that HCI did not have permission from Beretta to use it's famous pistol as it's posterchild for gun control I encouraged my fellow compatriots here on TFL to call Beretta Legal Offices @ 301-283-2191 ask for the legal Dept and express thier concern. Beretta has the legal teeth to take on HCI We just need to point that Rottweiler in the right direction! Encourage others until that gun is removed and they put another one in there, then we start the process over, (That is if they are that dumb) Additionally Keith Rogan came up with an E-mail address for Beretta's Leadership forum malbert@berettausa.com and I Encouraged Everyone to E-mail as well as call! Our response was overwhelming, some members including myself took the post to other boards and spread the word even further ( thanks Keith and Solo! and Anyone else for that matter.) The Word spread Like wildfire and Beretta was inundated with phone calls and e-mails which caused them to take action (See the large Disclaimer on Beretta's website www.berettausa.com) They have the corporate might to do it so we need to encourage them. HCI's only response to this whole thing was to take down their site for the better part of a day and Clarify their position....They made the Beretta 92 highly distinguishable! No mistaking it now!! We continued to cry foul and it appears that Beretta is Taking or at least preparing Legal action.... Oh yeah I got a great looking certificate and a nomination for President.. LOL that brings us to date!
This whole thing is getting HUGE I am seeing a great response on other sites as well, none quite so large as the TFL however! Let me encourage you one more time CALL and E-mail not only to let Beretta Know that you are upset that HCI can Blatently use their Highly respected handgun as a poster child for gun control but to encourage them as well, let them know that this is a precedent setting situation and the whole world is watching their next move! Also let them know that you will gladly stand behind them in their efforts to get their Handgun off of HCI's page!! HCI Basically snubbed their nose at Beretta by clearing up that picture so it sounds as though the gloves are off!
I have also brought over one of my last posts...Couldn't find an E-mail for HCI however here is their Address and Phone Number. Distasteful as it may be to see that phone number appear on your phone bill it is but a small price to pay considering what we have to lose. Call them and let them have it, Stay reasonable and ensure that they know that you will Support Beretta in whatever Action they decide to take against them. Let them know that you are sending the NRA a donation to further OUR cause!! Let them know that you are sick of thier ravings and it has to end. Copy that letter to HCI I wrote and use that as a reference or mail it to them etc etc...
Director of Development ( hell Put Sarah Brady's name here)
Center to Prevent Handgun Violence
1225 Eye Street, NW, Suite 1100
Washington, DC 20005
(202) 289-7319
Ugh!
And finally that brings us to GWINNY's Question. If you put your name and return address on it they KNOW who to remove off of their mailing list so you can only pull that off once No name they cannot remove you and you will continue to receive their Pre paid Envelopes allowing you to mail them another letter on their dime etc etc etc. I know others are concerned for other reasons but that is one major one...Back to the trenches..
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...“ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” --Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759.
..."The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." --Thomas Jefferson
... "The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are constitutional rights secure." Albert Einstein
... "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction."Ronald Reagan
Take care and God Bless, El Jefe
[This message has been edited by El Jefe (edited September 16, 1999).]
[This message has been edited by DC (edited September 23, 1999).]