Walther P99 impressions please....
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thequickad
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[Edited by thequickad on 12-27-2000 at 01:36 AM]
I most certainly would get the P99. It is a fine pistol. Standard capacity mags are a bit of a b!tch to obtain, but it can be done.
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BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!!
Yeah, I got a permit to carry,it's called the friggin Constitution.---Ted Nugent
"Man killing is nasty business"---Finn Aagaard
Minor caliber my arse, 9mm rules the roost!!!!
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BOYCOTT SMITH AND WESSON!!!
Yeah, I got a permit to carry,it's called the friggin Constitution.---Ted Nugent
"Man killing is nasty business"---Finn Aagaard
Minor caliber my arse, 9mm rules the roost!!!!
Accurate, reliable, robust.
If you get a factory-new one, give it a good cleaning and lubrication (I prefer the TetraGun products) or it tends to jam on the first box of ammo. Walther ships their guns with a combo preservative/lube that is a bit gummy.
I've put approx 9,000 rounds through mine in 9mm with no problems. I did do a light load test in which I got down to 2.5 gr of Unique behind a 125-gr LRN before the slide wouldn't cycle fully.
Hi-cap mags are available from One-Eyed Jacks, Earl's Repair Service and KY Imports, the going rate is $125 (ouch) but occasionaly they turn up at the online gun sale sites for less. I picked up two on gunsamerica.com for $35 each last month from a shop going out of business.
It makes a nice CCW heater, too. The rounded grip tends to avoid snagging your shirt. Leather is available from Wild Bill's Concealment or PWL Leathers. Night sights are available from both Trijicon and MeproLight.
One word of caution: It's not a good gun for beginners. The trigger takes a bit of getting used to, for one thing, but like most good things in life, a bit of patience and practice rewards the user.
Ken Strayhorn
Hillsborough NC
If you get a factory-new one, give it a good cleaning and lubrication (I prefer the TetraGun products) or it tends to jam on the first box of ammo. Walther ships their guns with a combo preservative/lube that is a bit gummy.
I've put approx 9,000 rounds through mine in 9mm with no problems. I did do a light load test in which I got down to 2.5 gr of Unique behind a 125-gr LRN before the slide wouldn't cycle fully.
Hi-cap mags are available from One-Eyed Jacks, Earl's Repair Service and KY Imports, the going rate is $125 (ouch) but occasionaly they turn up at the online gun sale sites for less. I picked up two on gunsamerica.com for $35 each last month from a shop going out of business.
It makes a nice CCW heater, too. The rounded grip tends to avoid snagging your shirt. Leather is available from Wild Bill's Concealment or PWL Leathers. Night sights are available from both Trijicon and MeproLight.
One word of caution: It's not a good gun for beginners. The trigger takes a bit of getting used to, for one thing, but like most good things in life, a bit of patience and practice rewards the user.
Ken Strayhorn
Hillsborough NC
I've got several hundred rounds through my 9mm Walther P99 and am still on the honeymoon with it.
Ergonomics get an A+, but you already know that if you've handled one. What I find I like best about the grip is that even though I have fairly large hands, I still like to use the small back strap. It allows me to let my finger tips rest in the hollowed out area on the left side of the grip. I get a greater sense of control over this pistol than with other semi-autos.
The decocker plate and multiposition trigger suits me to a tee. I love being able to shoot a striker fired pistol five times at a target, decock, set the gun down, retract the target, mark my group, send the target back out again, and be ready to fire double action first shot as soon as I pick my weapon up again. With other striker fired pistols, when you go to set the weapon down you either have to unload the chamber, tolerate a manual safety on the frame or slide, or tolerate a condition zero weapon laying idle.
The ability to 'cock' the pistol to a single action type trigger with only a slight movement of the slide is another fine development. I can pull the pistol from the holster with the full double action trigger and then 'cock' to a single action with only the briefest of motions. In addition, be prepared for one of the fastest recovering triggers you've ever fired--when I click off double taps it seems as though I barely have to release and reapply pressure in order to get off the second round. It will surprise you how fast it cycles.
The gun's accuracy is above average to very good--it can't match my CZ-75 at 50 feet, but it will group at 2.5 inches when I'm up to the task. I'd put it on par with any Glock I've ever shot--no slam on Glock intended!!!!!!!!
In the first batch of Winchester USA FMJ's that I shot I noticed that the slide didn't want to return to full battery--it hung up about a 1/4" short and required a tap on the back to complete the cycle. I changed ammo and this hasn't reoccurred in the last 250 rounds.
The one thing I did notice was my trigger finger got pinched a bit after pulling five or six shots. I finally figured out that since I was using the small back strap, I was wrapping my index finger around the trigger further than I normally do--I was holding it in the joint between the second and third digits. Because this is a fatter part of my finger, the raised hump at the bottom of the trigger guard was rubbing against my finger and causing discomfort. Moving my finger back to the pad of the first digit resting on the trigger took care of the problem -- and improved my group sizes.
The Walther P99 will not overly fatigue you in 9mm (never shot a P99 .40). 100 rounds in a session didn't cause any weariness or recoil pain.
It's a fine, fine weapon and well worth the money in my opinion. Hope this helped.
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Ergonomics get an A+, but you already know that if you've handled one. What I find I like best about the grip is that even though I have fairly large hands, I still like to use the small back strap. It allows me to let my finger tips rest in the hollowed out area on the left side of the grip. I get a greater sense of control over this pistol than with other semi-autos.
The decocker plate and multiposition trigger suits me to a tee. I love being able to shoot a striker fired pistol five times at a target, decock, set the gun down, retract the target, mark my group, send the target back out again, and be ready to fire double action first shot as soon as I pick my weapon up again. With other striker fired pistols, when you go to set the weapon down you either have to unload the chamber, tolerate a manual safety on the frame or slide, or tolerate a condition zero weapon laying idle.
The ability to 'cock' the pistol to a single action type trigger with only a slight movement of the slide is another fine development. I can pull the pistol from the holster with the full double action trigger and then 'cock' to a single action with only the briefest of motions. In addition, be prepared for one of the fastest recovering triggers you've ever fired--when I click off double taps it seems as though I barely have to release and reapply pressure in order to get off the second round. It will surprise you how fast it cycles.
The gun's accuracy is above average to very good--it can't match my CZ-75 at 50 feet, but it will group at 2.5 inches when I'm up to the task. I'd put it on par with any Glock I've ever shot--no slam on Glock intended!!!!!!!!
In the first batch of Winchester USA FMJ's that I shot I noticed that the slide didn't want to return to full battery--it hung up about a 1/4" short and required a tap on the back to complete the cycle. I changed ammo and this hasn't reoccurred in the last 250 rounds.
The one thing I did notice was my trigger finger got pinched a bit after pulling five or six shots. I finally figured out that since I was using the small back strap, I was wrapping my index finger around the trigger further than I normally do--I was holding it in the joint between the second and third digits. Because this is a fatter part of my finger, the raised hump at the bottom of the trigger guard was rubbing against my finger and causing discomfort. Moving my finger back to the pad of the first digit resting on the trigger took care of the problem -- and improved my group sizes.
The Walther P99 will not overly fatigue you in 9mm (never shot a P99 .40). 100 rounds in a session didn't cause any weariness or recoil pain.
It's a fine, fine weapon and well worth the money in my opinion. Hope this helped.
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VictorLouis
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I am very pleased with the one that I shot(9mm). I like the fact that the decocker is a flush mounted, non-snag, button instead of a protruding lever or switch. I LOVE the pre-cocked trigger position where it is all the way forward, allowing for a longer, but equally light SA pull for the first shot. The fit and finish are easily the best of any of the plastic guns. The "hump" at the bottom of the trigger guard did begin to irritate my finger to an extent. Were I to get one, that would have to be dressed down flush with the rest of the guard. I think it may be a bit of a handful in .40, but I'd love to try it just the same.
DENFOOTE: Nice to hear from you again within a post of the P99.
DENFOOTE: Nice to hear from you again within a post of the P99.
Here's my impression of the Walther P99:
Hello, I'm a P99!!! I'm made by Walther. James Bond uses me.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Just kidding. I have a P99 in 9mm, and love it. Great carry gun. You may have seen a previous post of mine where I say that if I could only have one gun, the P99 would probably be it. 16+1 rounds can't be beat in a gun that size (the G17 is much bigger). While I had some jams at first with S&B ammo, I haven't had any problems with Winchester. The one recurring theme I hear with P99's is that they are somewhat ammo sensitive.
Hello, I'm a P99!!! I'm made by Walther. James Bond uses me.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Just kidding. I have a P99 in 9mm, and love it. Great carry gun. You may have seen a previous post of mine where I say that if I could only have one gun, the P99 would probably be it. 16+1 rounds can't be beat in a gun that size (the G17 is much bigger). While I had some jams at first with S&B ammo, I haven't had any problems with Winchester. The one recurring theme I hear with P99's is that they are somewhat ammo sensitive.
Seems like I am the only one in the country that purchased the 40.
For ex comp jocks.
10 Print "I love it, I love it, ditto.";
20 Goto 10
Run
Anyway, I posted about a month ago the trials and tribulations that I have had with certain types of ammo. After reading the post about cleaning it, I would like to retry some of the loads I now avoid.
When new, the trigger was sticky and I dry fired a lot to get it to loosen up- no avail. Walther does not recommend a complete breakdown when cleaning- just what amounts to field stripping with other guns. Last cleaning, I took the striker/decocker assy apart and cleaned and lubed it up. The trigger feels smoother. I do not know if it is me or the trigger, but I can not wait. This is the only pistol I own, it was my baptism, leaving the ways of the evil anti inside of me behind.
Walther factory mags are expensive ($59-$70).
SW99 mags are $35. I bought one, now I have two for the range and one full time defense.Most of my shots are low left, but I know it is me and I am flerking. I do not feel the recoil all that much and last trip to the range for my NRA pistol cert for CCW, I shot 300 rounds without a single jam using the ammo types my gun loves.
I agree with the dremmel tooling the guard down, although I have not done it yet, it is high on my list.
Be prepared, the gun (mine was $639) is expensive, less than Sig, slightly more than HK and the Steyr, lots more than Glock and mucho more than a Ruger. All of those who owns these other guns will put you down because of price vs performance. Trips to the range have proven that I (personally) am much more accurate with the Walther than with any of the others (except Steyr- have not shot it- do not like the keyed safety). Us Walther owners (and exowners- denfoote) pretty much all enjoy shooting it.
I have the 40, I like the fourty and I will carry the fourty as soon as I get the CCW in the mail.
[This message has been edited by hube1236 (edited June 29, 2000).]
For ex comp jocks.
10 Print "I love it, I love it, ditto.";
20 Goto 10
Run
Anyway, I posted about a month ago the trials and tribulations that I have had with certain types of ammo. After reading the post about cleaning it, I would like to retry some of the loads I now avoid.
When new, the trigger was sticky and I dry fired a lot to get it to loosen up- no avail. Walther does not recommend a complete breakdown when cleaning- just what amounts to field stripping with other guns. Last cleaning, I took the striker/decocker assy apart and cleaned and lubed it up. The trigger feels smoother. I do not know if it is me or the trigger, but I can not wait. This is the only pistol I own, it was my baptism, leaving the ways of the evil anti inside of me behind.
Walther factory mags are expensive ($59-$70).
SW99 mags are $35. I bought one, now I have two for the range and one full time defense.Most of my shots are low left, but I know it is me and I am flerking. I do not feel the recoil all that much and last trip to the range for my NRA pistol cert for CCW, I shot 300 rounds without a single jam using the ammo types my gun loves.
I agree with the dremmel tooling the guard down, although I have not done it yet, it is high on my list.
Be prepared, the gun (mine was $639) is expensive, less than Sig, slightly more than HK and the Steyr, lots more than Glock and mucho more than a Ruger. All of those who owns these other guns will put you down because of price vs performance. Trips to the range have proven that I (personally) am much more accurate with the Walther than with any of the others (except Steyr- have not shot it- do not like the keyed safety). Us Walther owners (and exowners- denfoote) pretty much all enjoy shooting it.
I have the 40, I like the fourty and I will carry the fourty as soon as I get the CCW in the mail.
[This message has been edited by hube1236 (edited June 29, 2000).]
Chipperman
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A friend just got a P99 in .40. I shot it last week. Now in all fairness to the gun, I only shot one magazine but these were my impressions....
Grip was nice, good weight and balance. Sights pretty good.
WHOA.... what's up with that trigger???
I think my first shot didn't even hit paper. The rest of the mag went well, pretty accurate piece.
Sharp recoil (what you would expect from a .40)
I think the trigger pull would take a lot of getting used to for me. Make sure you fire one and like the pull before purchasing.
Grip was nice, good weight and balance. Sights pretty good.
WHOA.... what's up with that trigger???
I think my first shot didn't even hit paper. The rest of the mag went well, pretty accurate piece.
Sharp recoil (what you would expect from a .40)
I think the trigger pull would take a lot of getting used to for me. Make sure you fire one and like the pull before purchasing.
Bought one of the early P99 -9mm Walthers.Trigger would not work as designed.Later serial numbers are supposed to have had a redesigned trigger that works.I like the grip and balance.It came with 2 recoil springs, one for 124gr.,and one for 115gr.I never had a miss fire with the original spring with any of the rounds regardless of bullet weight.Nice gun but not happy with it yet.About 600 rounds so far.Don't know why I haven't traded or sold it,but then I hardly ever sell or trade them.I seem to like them all even with thier problems.. 
own one....nice balance, no misfeeds or jams, nicest grip on the market, best poly on the market, very accurate, easily concealed. Only negative is i still don't like the trigger...kinda gritty and long take up on the trigger with that double, triple safety trigger or whatever they call it. Overall, it's a keeper.......Dan in GA