Has anyone got to shoot this gun yet? Guns and Ammo make it sound like a really good gun. Maybe the grips are a little to fat but everything else they say about it sounds great. They are calling it one of the best DA autos ever. I have talked to a few guys on the net that have said that they have shot it and they said they love it.
Waht do you know about the Para-Ordnance LDA P14
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Steve Smith
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Please bear in mind that you should weigh heavily what gun rags say about guns. It's common knowledge that manufacturers give guns to writers in exchange for good write-ups. Those guns are run through the ringer at the factory to make sure that their best work arrives in the writer's hands. I've been bitten by this once, never again. I'm not a gunsmith, but the right-side rails look a little weak for long-time use on the LDA.
Guns & Ammo calls it handgun of the year. Well it looks like a nice gun, and I have no reason to doubt it is a nice gun, but something about it seems familiar. Let's see, a light, consistant, DAO trigger in a high capacity .45 ACP. Of course! It's a Glock 21 in disguise! Yes the Para-Ord has a very different mechanism than the Glock, and it's also a lot heavier, but still I think that this represents Para-Ord jumping on the Glock bandwagon. It's just that their Glock imitation looks like a 1911. Note also that they are pitching this gun towards LEOs. Okay, I admit it...I want one anyway.
Libertarian
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The LDA will be my next gun. I own two Paras already.
George Hill
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I dont care for it.
For one - its not a real Double Action.
If you dont know first hand what the LDA is - go look at one and feel the action. Its wrong. It isnt so much a DA, more like a Single Action with a really long crappy trigger.
I dont see its point.
For one - its not a real Double Action.
If you dont know first hand what the LDA is - go look at one and feel the action. Its wrong. It isnt so much a DA, more like a Single Action with a really long crappy trigger.
I dont see its point.
Ford, sometime(?) this week I'll recieve my LDA here in Aus.
I will be posting my Range report on the board here for all to see.
3 or is it 4 guys on my Board own a LDA, so if you want an unbiased opinion (
) drop by & ask them. 
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A really good price for them is from : http://www.ultout.com./handguns.htm#paraordinance
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D1640ER 40SW DA 5IN 10RD STEEL (1) $609.43
D1445ER 45ACP 10RD DA STEEL 5IN (4) $620.51
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I will be posting my Range report on the board here for all to see.
3 or is it 4 guys on my Board own a LDA, so if you want an unbiased opinion (
) drop by & ask them. *******
A really good price for them is from : http://www.ultout.com./handguns.htm#paraordinance
Ultimate Outdoors
D1640ER 40SW DA 5IN 10RD STEEL (1) $609.43
D1445ER 45ACP 10RD DA STEEL 5IN (4) $620.51
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"The Gun from Down Under !"
http://www.para1911fanclub.w3.to/
E-mail hotshot_2000@hotmail.com
Alternate E-mail
HS2000@ausi.com
[This message has been edited by HS (edited February 21, 2000).]
The trigger, to me, is a freak of nature! I don't like it one bit. Para's are good pistols, but the LDA just ain't right.
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CrowShooter
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I sincerely do not intend this to be confrontational, but I do have a problem with some "statements" on this thread.
Don't see a "point" to this gun. Someone made that same statement about the "assault" type weapons a few years ago and you see where that got us........I hope that this wasn't really meant like it sounded. If you just don’t like it, that’s something different altogether.
The 2 LDA's that I've seen have had a 4 1/2-5# trigger, out of the box. It doesn't feel like a SA 1911 trigger, because, it's NOT. Not a true double action? OK, but, isn’t that just semantics? So maybe they should have changed the name. If my information is correct, it was made for liability conscious LEO-type communities. A 1911-type hi-cap DAO .45. That can't be a BAD thing, can it? BTW, I also heard from a Para-Ordnance employee that these triggers can be tuned extrememly low, SAFELY . This doesn't mean anything to this thread other than MOST stock 1911 style guns, Colts, Paras, Kimbers, SA, etc., can benefit from some trigger work. Why should this one be any different?
As far as the right side rails, have you ever seen the "rails" on a USP? They hold up pretty well, don't they?
Now, I feel better.
CS
Don't see a "point" to this gun. Someone made that same statement about the "assault" type weapons a few years ago and you see where that got us........I hope that this wasn't really meant like it sounded. If you just don’t like it, that’s something different altogether.
The 2 LDA's that I've seen have had a 4 1/2-5# trigger, out of the box. It doesn't feel like a SA 1911 trigger, because, it's NOT. Not a true double action? OK, but, isn’t that just semantics? So maybe they should have changed the name. If my information is correct, it was made for liability conscious LEO-type communities. A 1911-type hi-cap DAO .45. That can't be a BAD thing, can it? BTW, I also heard from a Para-Ordnance employee that these triggers can be tuned extrememly low, SAFELY . This doesn't mean anything to this thread other than MOST stock 1911 style guns, Colts, Paras, Kimbers, SA, etc., can benefit from some trigger work. Why should this one be any different?
As far as the right side rails, have you ever seen the "rails" on a USP? They hold up pretty well, don't they?
Now, I feel better.
CS
Anyway we'll probably all agree that the LDA trigger is different. I tried it, and it felt very strange at first. But it's an interesting and innovative design with, I think, a lot of potential once the shooter becomes accustomed to it.
Regarding the LDA grip, it's fine for me overall. But the grip safety on the particular LDA I examined had a real problem. The grip safety spring was way, way too strong. I had to practically strangle the grip to get the grip safety to disengage and allow the trigger to work. I hope Para-Ord didn't intend to make it this way.
Regarding the LDA grip, it's fine for me overall. But the grip safety on the particular LDA I examined had a real problem. The grip safety spring was way, way too strong. I had to practically strangle the grip to get the grip safety to disengage and allow the trigger to work. I hope Para-Ord didn't intend to make it this way.
George Hill
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Sorry - I still dont see the point of the LDA.
Maybe its the added appeal for Police Officers to get the 1911 approved for Double Action Duty.
Unfortunatly - it isnt a DA Auto. You cant "second strike" with it. Its a funky Single Action with a fake DA pull. You have to cock the main spring, then you have that "DA" pull - Now, tell me... What is the point of that? Your compicating the manual of arms - your complicating the action needlessly. More parts in there to break - more parts to polish and clean up and maintain...
No, I dont see the point.
And thats MY opinion - which is mine to give wether your tired of hearing those "statements" or not.
How the heck to you connect a crappy trigger to assault weapons?
What we are seeing is gun companies making things a little different to try to stir some more sales. They made things different - but not BETTER. I dont see an advancement of the technology there, or advantage for the shooter. Just like Mossbergs Double Action trigger on the 500/590 series shotguns... WHY?
One advancement that is worthy is Remington's Xtronic firing system - thats cool - thats an advancement. Never mind the fact that Internet Explorer '98 is bundled with it - (joke) but it can help you shoot better. Dont try to sell me turn of the (19th) century technology as something "new". I aint buying it. Differnt can be good - but that aint diffent in a positive way - its more Tired than Wired. Now put a Titanium Slide on it and chamber it Super... Then we'll talk!
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Maybe its the added appeal for Police Officers to get the 1911 approved for Double Action Duty.
Unfortunatly - it isnt a DA Auto. You cant "second strike" with it. Its a funky Single Action with a fake DA pull. You have to cock the main spring, then you have that "DA" pull - Now, tell me... What is the point of that? Your compicating the manual of arms - your complicating the action needlessly. More parts in there to break - more parts to polish and clean up and maintain...
No, I dont see the point.
And thats MY opinion - which is mine to give wether your tired of hearing those "statements" or not.
How the heck to you connect a crappy trigger to assault weapons?
What we are seeing is gun companies making things a little different to try to stir some more sales. They made things different - but not BETTER. I dont see an advancement of the technology there, or advantage for the shooter. Just like Mossbergs Double Action trigger on the 500/590 series shotguns... WHY?
One advancement that is worthy is Remington's Xtronic firing system - thats cool - thats an advancement. Never mind the fact that Internet Explorer '98 is bundled with it - (joke) but it can help you shoot better. Dont try to sell me turn of the (19th) century technology as something "new". I aint buying it. Differnt can be good - but that aint diffent in a positive way - its more Tired than Wired. Now put a Titanium Slide on it and chamber it Super... Then we'll talk!
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George Hill
Staff Alumnus
Rather have a Colt Double Eagle...
Took a look at one at the gun show but it was just not right the feel and fuction was also not right. the triger pull was very nice. I did not like how you have to depress the back to pull the slide. For week people that is good. I would look into the glock 30 or a para 13 limted. thats my 2 cents
House
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i own and have fired a lda. if you are accustom to 1911 sa guns it's probably not something you'll like. it is not a 1911. the gun i have will shoot 2" groups @25 yards with just about any ammo i've tried. i shoot da/dao pistols and the trigger doesn't bother me. i purchased the lda from a man who is a long time 1911 sa shooter who's only complaint was that he was used to a single action trigger and too old to change. up to this point the lda has been totally reliable with absolutely no malfunctions of any kind... i put ammo in the mag and just shoot. i have glocks,brownings, smiths, colts, paras, tricked out race guns,22 pistols and revolvers and i shoot them alot... the para will hold its own for reliability and accuracy.