WA State silencer use bill (1016) to get hearing.

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RAnb

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I just got off the phone with Representative Pedersen's aide. She says that bill 1016 will get a hearing in committee. This is farther than any silencer bill has gone before; the rest died without a hearing.

The hearing has not been scheduled yet; the session starts on 1/10/2011. The committee schedules should be out by next week some time. I plan on attending as long as it is takes place next week. I will be out of the state working from January 18 till the end of the month.

Unless there are other gun control bills scheduled for a hearing, it is not likely that 200 plus people will show up to observe or testify at the hearing as I saw a few years ago. If you plan on going, get there at least an hour before it is scheduled to start and sign up. Those that sign up are asked if they are pro or con on the bills being heard. Those that want to speak to the committee indicate so. From what I understand, it is first come first serve for those who want to speak. People get about 5 minutes to present their views. The last time I went to a Senate hearing on gun control bills, only about 10% of those showing up were for the bills (various bans), but they choose an equal number to speak on each side, pro and con.

I hope that those people speaking for both sides only stick to the facts and do not use emotional arguments. If I am not able to attend, I would like to speak to anyone here that is planning to go. I can supply data on the low number of silencer related crimes and letters from the WASPC and WACOPS on their positions. I can also prepare a fact sheet to give to the committee members.

I have been hearing that the bill is expected to pass the House, but we need to keep pushing. I have been writing more to Senators and also sent the Governor a letter. A member of Gregoire's staff when she was the AG tried to convince me that silencers were illegal in the entire USA. I hope to convince her that they are useful enough to be legal to use.

Ranb
 
Another thank you shout out from Spokane. Email to politicians inbound...

Thanks for your efforts to get the laws changed!!
 
The hearing will take place on Wednesday, 1/12/11. Agendas
Judiciary - 01/12/11 8:00 am
Full Committee
House Hearing Rm A
John L. O'Brien Building
Olympia, WA

Public Hearing:
HB 1032 - Modifying consumer protection act provisions. (If measure is referred to committee.)
HB 1041 - Including correctional employees who have completed government-sponsored law enforcement firearms training to the lists of law enforcement personnel that are exempt from certain firearm restrictions. (If measure is referred to committee.)
HB 1016 - Changing restrictions on firearm noise suppressors. (If measure is referred to committee.)
HB 1017 - Mandating a twelve-hour impound hold on motor vehicles used by persons arrested for driving under the influence. (If measure is referred to committee.)
HB 1001 - Placing restrictions on pro se defendants when questioning witnesses. (If measure is referred to committee.)
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There is only one other gun control bill on the list, and it eases restrictions as far as I can tell. I do not anticipate much of an anti-gun crowd showing up for this one.

I will be taking the morning (or whole day) off from work to attend. Anyone want to join me?

Sending e-mail is ok, but real letters work better. Your Rep's website also has contact phone numbers. An aide will most likely answer the phone, but you can request a good time to call back to talk to the Rep.

Ranb
 
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The hearing went well today.

When the bill was read by the committee staff, it was in a completely unbiased and supportive manner. Their statement included both the words suppressor and silencer. I think the time for being afraid to use the "other S-word" is coming to an end.

A WACOPS representative showed up and spoke first, completely stole my thunder. That is ok though as he was dressed in a suit and spoke just as eloquent. He also gave healthy support to the notion that civilians should be able to use silencers too. I was left with one minute and only mentioned federal penalties. I forgot to bring up the low crime data I brought with.

A very big thank you for WA Tom for showing up. He was the sole industry representative. He spoke of how WA class 2's were are a big disadvantage because they could not test their products in the state. I recorded the hearing; I will post the relevant parts on YouTube later today.

Ranb
 
exciting I've been following this on NWf, but googled 1016 to see where else this might have been mentioned. I emailed all my reps with the wacops letter. hopefully I'll be a legal owner and washington state resident user of a suppressor. Hell I know I'll be using it whenever I can during classes (teaching and learning), matches, etc. crossing fingers today and tomorrow.
 
Thanks, (crosse) – we had a good hearing this morning and I am guessing that the bill will pass out of committee tomorrow. I intend to vote for it. Best, Jamie (Pedersen)
 
For anyone who wants to keep up with what is happening with a bill, go to http://access.wa.gov and click on the government link. This will give links to legislators, laws, bills, committee agendas and just about everything you need to know about what our critters are doing in Olympia.

Here is the link for the House committees. http://www.leg.wa.gov/House/Committees/Pages/default.aspx Just click on the agenda link to see what they are going to give a hearing on.

Most bills do not get a hearing. You must make the committee chairman give a damn by writing, calling and meeting face to face with him or her. Never count on the bill sponsors to give a damn for you. If there is one thing I learned in the last three years of lobbying for silencer use it was this.

You can even subscribe to a calendar of events here; http://www.leg.wa.gov/legislature/pages/calendar.aspx After signing up, you get e-mail alerts to what is happening. This way you are not taken by surprise. You can also call the Senator or Representatives office and they can give you dates for any hearings on bills you are interested in.

A search on bill 1016 shows;
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=1016&year=2011

2011 REGULAR SESSION
Dec 13 Prefiled for introduction.
Jan 10 First reading, referred to Judiciary. (View Original Bill)
Jan 12 Public hearing in the House Committee on Judiciary at 8:00 AM. (Committee Materials)
Jan 13 Scheduled for executive session in the House Committee on Judiciary at 10:00 AM. (Subject to change) (Committee Materials)
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There should be more info soon on the results of the executive hearing that is going on today(1/13/2011)

Politics sucks, but gun control sucks more. Get involved.

Ranb
 
called and sent letters to 47th district got a "take under consideration" reply so I'm thinking not a whole lot of support :mad: hoping I'm wrong
 
If this goes through, three very good friends of mine intending to move to WA will be quite happy indeed.

Mind, still no DDs there, but... baby steps.


RAnb, you are, without a doubt, a patriot. :)
 
RAnb....good work for sure.

Looks like it's passed the Judiciary Committe. It was passed to the Rules Commitee for a second reading on MLK Day? Didn't know the lawmakers worked on MLK day.....

Suppressor bill said:
2011 REGULAR SESSION
Dec 13 Prefiled for introduction.
Jan 10 First reading, referred to Judiciary. (View Original Bill)
Jan 12 Public hearing in the House Committee on Judiciary at 8:00 AM. (Committee Materials)
Jan 13 Executive action taken in the House Committee on Judiciary at 10:00 AM. (Committee Materials)
JUDI - Executive action taken by committee.
JUDI - Majority; do pass. (Majority Report)
Jan 17 Passed to Rules Committee for second reading.
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Here's to our friends in Washington State to be able to join the rest of the "Quiet Nation." :D
 
Rules Committee

 
House bill 1016 passed a vote on the House floor.

HB 1016
Firearm noise suppressors
House vote on Final Passage
2/7/2011

Yeas: 88 Nays: 4 Absent: 0 Excused: 6

Voting Yea: Representatives Ahern, Alexander, Angel, Armstrong, Asay, Bailey, Billig, Blake, Buys, Carlyle, Chandler, Clibborn, Cody, Condotta, Crouse, Dahlquist, Dammeier, DeBolt, Dickerson, Dunshee, Fagan, Finn, Fitzgibbon, Frockt, Goodman, Green, Haigh, Haler, Hargrove, Harris, Hasegawa, Hinkle, Hope, Hunt, Hurst, Jacks, Jinkins, Johnson, Kagi, Kelley, Kenney, Kirby, Klippert, Kretz, Kristiansen, Ladenburg, Liias, Lytton, Maxwell, McCoy, McCune, Miloscia, Moeller, Morris, Moscoso, Nealey, Orcutt, Ormsby, Orwall, Overstreet, Parker, Pearson, Pedersen, Pettigrew, Probst, Reykdal, Rivers, Roberts, Rolfes, Ross, Ryu, Santos, Seaquist, Sells, Shea, Schmick, Short, Stanford, Sullivan, Takko, Taylor, Tharinger, Van De Wege, Walsh, Warnick, Wilcox, Zeiger, and Mr. Speaker
Voting Nay: Representatives Darneille, Hudgins, Hunter, and Springer
Absent:
Excused: Representatives Anderson, Appleton, Eddy, Rodne, Smith, and Upthegrove
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I am not sure, but maybe Senate bill 5112 is not making progress because House bill 1016 will go to it for a vote. The list of bills getting an executive hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee is out, and bill 5112 is not on it.

Ranb
 
Bill 5112 was heard by the Senate Judiciary Executive Committee this morning. There was no debate. The decision was a unanimous "do pass" recommendation. It goes to the Rules Committee next.

Ranb
 
This is fantastic news to Washington State firearms enthusiast... I still can't believe that our left wing, left coast politicians actually went for this!!!!
 
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