(WA) Redmond man fights off armed carjacker

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http://www.southcountyjournal.com/sited/retr_story.pl/23025

Redmond man fights off armed carjacker
2000-06-29
by Noel S. Brady
Journal Reporter

REDMOND -- A Redmond man thwarted an armed carjacker early yesterday morning and ended up holding on for dear life to the outside of his car as it sped around a grocery store parking lot.

Mohamed Kazaal was loading groceries into his Honda Accord outside QFC at 15800 Redmond Way, near the Ben Franklin store, about 2:15 a.m., when a man came up behind him and demanded his keys, said Redmond police spokesman Brian Coats.

When Kazaal turned around, he saw the robber was pointing a handgun at him. The carjacker threatened to shoot Kazaal if he didn't hand over the keys, Coats said.

With that, Kazaal, 30, grabbed the man's arm, and the two struggled, throwing punches. Eventually they both fell to the ground, and Kazaal dropped his keys.

The other man then grabbed the keys and jumped in the car, Coats said, but not before Kazaal got a grip on the driver's side window, and went for a ride. As the Accord screeched out of the parking stall, Kazaal hung on, determined not to let the man steal his wheels.

After several turns around the mostly vacant lot, the carjacker finally stopped the car and ran toward a mountain bike he had stashed in some nearby bushes.

Officer Joaquin Lipana and his police dog, Yavo, arrived on the scene moments later to find Kazaal dazed with a few scrapes and bruises. About 15 minutes later, the K-9 team found the suspect hiding between a building and a trailer about a mile away from the QFC.

The 30-year-old Issaquah man was arrested and booked into the King County Jail. Kazaal was taken to Evergreen Hospital, and released later that morning.

Kazaal could not be reached for comment yesterday.

While Coats admitted it was hard to blame the man for protecting his property, he warned that fighting off a carjacker can be a deadly move.

``We don't recommend people fight over their car, particularly when weapons are involved,'' he said. ``It's just not worth getting killed over property that can be replaced.''

Noel Brady can be reached at noel.brady@eastsidejournal.com or 425-453-4252.
 
Stoooooopid! Risk loss of life or limbs over a car. Which is not to say that I like carjackers (refer to rule 303)
 
Kinda stupid, but ya gotta admire the guy's moxey. (Sorta reminds me of, "I'm mad as he** and I'm not gonna take it anymore!")

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Too bad the driver wasn't armed. In some states (Alabama is one), deadly force is a justifiable defense if the BG is committing first degree robbery.

What's the law on that in WA?
 
Where did the righteous sense of indignation go? A car can be replaced, sure thing. But whoever made that statement doesn't have to try and find a ride to work, or come up with the money for a new car because the carjacker has no assets to be sued for if he dumps the stolen car in a lake or torches it. If your sense of self-determination and The Right Not To Be Screwed With By Force is not worth a good fight, then toss away your carry guns and unlearn all that martial arts stuff. I might get scuffed up when I fight someone who is trying to take my property, but my sense of self-worth is more important than that. It's not about the object that gets stolen. If you try to draw the line and determine at what point it's ok to fight back, you end up putting a price tag on your dignity. I might get hurt or killed defending myself against a robber, but that is my choice, and I'd rather go with a weapon in my hand fighting for what's right than stand there and hand the keys to my car with a shrug. "You try to mess with me or mine, and I'll do my best to make your life miserable". If more people had the cojones of that guy in the parking lot, car jackings and robberies would be much less prevalent than they are right now.

[This message has been edited by lendringser (edited June 29, 2000).]
 
I would have a very hard time trying to replace my car if stolen.It would mean a lot of hardship on my part.In AZ I can shoot and I would.If someone says the car is not worth a life all I can say is the criminal thought it was.His choice.One less scumbag in the world and who knows what he might have done next maybe to someones wife or mother or child.

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While back on the left coast, carjackers were killin the owners even if owner did not resist. In an atmosphere like that, I say go for it, nuttin to lose and all to gain.

Here in AZ it seems that carjacking never caught on as a sport. I like my outside carry round to be able to shoot through a car door...mine.


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