VP Cheney slams Demosocialist Dick Durbin

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Demosoialist extrordinaire Dick Durbin (D-IL) explodes in an anti-American/anti-soldier tirade, calling our soldiers "Nazis." His hatred of America and everything America stands for could not be more blatantly obvious.

Go ahead, Mr. Durbin - tell us how we deserved what we got on 9-11-01. Tell us how American soldiers are monsters. Tell us how the Founders of our nation were wrong at every turn.

Oh, and when you are finished, tell us why a multimillionaire like you hates the country that made you rich and powerful. We common working folk don't quite understand where you're coming from.
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Cheney "appalled" by Durbin's Nazi Outburst

Vice President Dick Cheney slammed No. 2 Senate Democrat Dick Durbin on Friday, saying his comparison of U.S. troops to Nazis was so "appalling" that he had to watch his language while discussing it.

Asked about Durbin's outburst, Cheney began by telling WWTN Nashville radio host Steve Gill: " I'm sure [this is] a family program, Steve. I have to be careful what I say."

Then the VP leveled both barrels at the Democrat's reckless complaint that Guantanamo detainees are subject to Nazi-like treatment.
"I thought Durbin was totally out of line," Cheney said. "For him to make those comparisons was one of the more egregious things I'd ever heard uttered on the floor of the United States Senate. ... It was so far over the top that I'm just appalled that anybody who serves in the United States Senate would even think those thoughts."

Cheney said that Durbin couldn't be more wrong about how the GI prison guards behave.

"The fact of the matter," he told Gill, "is the situation at Guantanamo is being very well handled by our military. ... [The terrorist detainees] are well-housed. They're well-fed. Their religious needs and desires are catered to. They're not being tortured or mistreated, but they are a major source of intelligence for us. Plus, we need to keep them off the streets."

Cheney reminded the Nashville audience that the Guantanamo guards have to handle some pretty rough customers.

"Remember what's happened here," he told Gill. "These are terrorists, these are bomb-makers ... these are hard-core terrorists is the only way to describe them. They're unlawful combatants. They're out to kill Americans. And if you put them back on the streets, that's exactly what they'll do."

The VP said it's clear that Durbin's comments have his fellow Democrats squirming, and hinted that he thought the scandal may force the top Democrat to walk the plank.

"I think they're swallowing hard," he told Gill. "We'll see what happens."
 
Durbin is a total A******!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope he gets run over by a cement truck. :mad:
No mention of Durbins comments on the news however----thanks liberals! :barf:
 
WASHINGTON - Attempting to stem growing criticism, Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said yesterday that he regretted any misunderstandings caused by his comments that compared some U.S. actions at Guantanamo Bay to those committed by the Nazis or Cambodia's Pol Pot.

"I have learned from my statement that historical parallels can be misused and misunderstood. I sincerely regret if what I said caused anyone to misunderstand my true feelings: Our soldiers around the world and their families at home deserve our respect, admiration and total support," Durbin said in a statement issued by his office yesterday.

Durbin drew the controversial comparison after reading an FBI agent's report describing how detainees at the U.S. Navy base in Cuba were chained to the floor in extreme temperatures without food or water: "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime – Pol Pot or others – that had no concern for human beings."

Insufficient. :mad:
 
Clearly an "apology" to save his a$$.

He uses the word "misunderstanding" as if there's more than one common understanding of a Nazi comparison. :barf:

Typical sleezy politician drivel. He's definitely nailing the stererotype home.
 
he feels that a few words can heal the wound he made. lets have him look at what newsweek caused when it published wrong information. the senate needs to be held accountable for their actions, big or small. they seem to get away with a lot of wrongdoings, and it is on both sides of the party line. it is time that american citizens take action and demand more than just an apology, but voice their opinion in voting. lets get more than just a small percentage of america to vote on the right issues, and not slam each other in political bs. i want to see where you stand on an issue, not where your opponent is wrong in the past. and we need their fellow politicians to hold them to the fire. democrats included in this case.
 
"If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime – Pol Pot or others – that had no concern for human beings."

Suppose it were a democrat president in charge. You'd be applauding him for saying that.
 
Heist, this has nothing to do with party politics. It has to do with a comment made by a member of the U.S. Senate. Plain and simple. If you'd like to draw party lines in this discussion it's for no other reason than to cause emotions to flare.

Come back when you have something intelligent to say.
 
Trip: I agree with you that what Heist said was partisan, and that's not very informative. One need not go any further than the neutral, objective, informative title of this thread: "VP Cheney Slams Demosocialist Dick Durban"... to find what some people might consider a non-neutral lable being used.

Demosocialist or Republinazi? How does that sound? :rolleyes:

Now, I really don't want to encourage name calling, as I believe it's divisive, irrelevant, entirely counterproductive. But, you shouldn't expect one party to sit quietly while the other calls them hideous names, and not to get a little annoyed... maybe even answer back, like Heist did. There needs to be one standard for conduct, not one for "the good guys" and a different one for "the bad guys".

I think that we're all in this together, although some might not be real happy about it. I also tend not to view one party as "the good guys" and the other as "the bad guys".

I have read recently some research (which could be wrong at some level of course - just one study of census data)... that indicated that people are increasingly segregrating themselves politically when they choose a community to live in. So the diversity of voices that people hear is declining. Now, psychological research has shown (and I believe it makes sense) that the narrower the range of views that is heard, the more extreme they become (not just politically, but for any subject). This doesn't bode well for the political situation here in the US in the future, if there will only be increasing polarization.

We'll never get anywhere if half the country is fighting the other half. I appeal therefore to moderation from both sides in this... I don't think it's wrong to point out mistakes or to have debate, but demonizing the other half of the country is just not real productive, no matter which "side" is doing it. We should all be on the same side, because like it or not, we are all in this together.
 
We'll never get anywhere if half the country is fighting the other half. I appeal therefore to moderation from both sides in this... I don't think it's wrong to point out mistakes or to have debate, but demonizing the other half of the country is just not real productive, no matter which "side" is doing it. We should all be on the same side, because like it or not, we are all in this together.
Democrats should have thought about that before they worked so hard to steal my money, rob me of my property, nullify my rights to self-defense, and slander my country.

Best hang on to your hat. It's gonna get one hell of a lot worse.
 
Democrats should have thought about that before they worked so hard to steal my money, rob me of my property, nullify my rights to self-defense, and slander my country.

Best hang on to your hat. It's gonna get one hell of a lot worse.

Well, Fred, I hope you're wrong... the U.S. is still #1 right now, but there's no law of physics (like say, conservation of power) that says that that situation has to continue forever. I don't agree with what Dick Durbin said, and think it was not only a pretty extreme statement, it's just real bad to say that publically in particular. Maybe he should be tossed. But Democrats aren't all Marxists, and, just like Republicans, they actually want what's best for the country, and for our future. I can't say what will happen, and I am not predicting anything dire either... just saying that in my opinion, it can't be good, even if it's all a civilized conflict... it's not going to move us forward any faster to have the country pitted against itself.
 
No, not all Democrats are Marxists. And honestly, it probably isn't helpful to refer to Durbin that way, because those who get it know what he is and those who don't aren't going to care.

Durbin is a political boss in the classic Chicago mold. He gives the most powerful elites in Chicago what they want and in return they keep him in campaign money and good press. But make no mistake; the particular ideology he embraces to accomplish that is socialist.

There are plenty of decent Democrats in Illinois, many of whom are the ones responsible for stopping Blagojevich's worst radical swings (especially on gun control.)

Durbin is not one of them.
 
Agreed Don - Durbin appears more of the stereotypical liar politician we all despise. Hope he just signed his own political death warrant... :barf:
 
All a "certain somebody" said was that Strom Thurmond would have been a good President and he was hounded out of office . Now here comes the true poop . Daley (yeah , the Mayor of Chicago) has a son that dropped out of USMA in his first year . He since joined the Army to kinda make up for that and serve . NOW Dimwit Durbin slams soldiers which looks to paint Daleys kid with the same brush . Methinks he screwed up big time . A "misunderstanding"??? Oh yeah , he meant to say that Game 7 would be a real barn burner but the microphone misinterpeted his remarks . Happens all the time .
 
You think Da Mayor is going to throw Dick Durbin to the sharks because he indirectly insulted Daley's kid? :confused:
Nope, not so much. Won't happen.

Daley would jettison Durbin if someone better (from Daley's point of view) came along and could be controlled best by giving him a Senate seat (which is not to imply that Durbin would be easy for Daley to remove in any instance or that Durbin is necessarily owned by Da Mayor.)

Or, he would do it if Durbin somehow became too good to be a team player--or too much of a liability.

But this whole thing is a tempest in a tea cup. It isn't going to last. By the time of the next election, they'll have to buy TV ads to remind people that he said it. MAYBE you could get him out of the leadership, but I don't think so. They've circled the wagons around him; if they toss him to the wolves now, there's not much sense in that. He would have to do much worse. And I can tell you right now that the media in Illinois is treating this as a misstatement, now resolved forever, because he made "a tearful apology." Some are even spinning this as a plus for him.

The real difference is not what either side is "forced" to do by media outcry. The Republicans could have stood by Trent Lott, but let's face it, they were afraid and they sacrificed him. The Democrats aren't going to do that to Durbin. A guy like Durbin bases his entire life and existence on who is loyal to him and to whom he owes loyalty. Democrats in Chicagoland take that sort of thing as seriously as any medieval knight took his oath to his liege lord (and like those knights, that doesn't mean the liege lord doesn't occasionally wake up to a dagger, but still.)
 
well durbin can still be held to the fire. from my experience in boot camp, chicago had a very large percentage of people in the Corps (it was like 30% of my platoon, with 45% from TX.) so there is obviously some military support in the city. with people realizing that durbin has called their sons some very demeaning names, people can get the word out. that is the greatest fear of many politicians. the constituents actually control his future. lets say that he has not had the intrest of his constituents on his mind and a few of them start posting ads saying this. many others will come to the light and go "hey, aren't you supposed to fight for me?" this might actually spark a few fires, but maybe not. the gen public is not always the best educated in the world. many of them follow what thier friends feel and don't want to make up their own mind. it is time for us to start to write our own congressmen and address the issue of how we do not tolerate public speakers making statements that we do not believe. this way we will decrease the numbers of politicians who will say these type of things.
 
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