Vicious Gun Brings Down Airliner!

Skyhawk

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ALERT: Vicious Gun Brings Down Airliner!

"Eeeeek! It's .............. a .............gunnnn!"

"Norfolk Tower calling all flights. Be advised of the national emergency and standby for delays in your flight pattern. Delta Express Flight 2395 will be diverting to land at this airport because it is carrying a handgun."

We can't make this story any funnier than it is. Delta Express Flight 2395 actually aborted its April 3 flight from New York to Florida and emergency landed in Virginia, because somebody found a loaded sidearm in the passenger cabin bathroom. Click on the AP story

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20000403/aponline202745_000.htm

Nobody was waving the firearm around. Nobody was threatening anyone with it. Nobody was even holding it. It was inert.

Yet panic erupted. The plane had to be landed abruptly. The FBI was called in to search the plane. Why?

Because the anti-self defense lobby has absolutely convinced so many Americans that firearms are dangerous in any condition and at all times. Loaded or unloaded. The very presence of a firearm strikes terror into the hearts of otherwise intelligent Americans - -- all because the firearm fear-mongers have succeeded so well.

A loaded firearm lying quietly on the sink poses no danger to anyone unless they pick it up and misuse it. In just a few seconds the sidearm on the plane could have been unloaded and rendered entirely and utterly 100% safe.

But no. The "public health" propaganda, funded by the federal Centers for Disease Control (CDC) and others, has managed to make people think guns are immediately and always dangerous. The mere "presence" of guns is a public health menace, they say. Delta Express apparently believes that big lie.

What if the airline crewmembers had been properly trained, and not terrified, about firearms? The flight would have proceeded without any delay necessary. Passengers would have suffered no danger, no inconvenience and no panic.

Are the flight attendants incapable of unloading a revolver or semi-automatic sidearm? Are likewise the flight officers incapable of unloading a sidearm? If so, it is because they have been intentionally denied the proper training.

The airline crews would not be alone. A whole generation of Americans has been systematically propagandized against having any interest or knowledge about firearms. Uneducated children became ignorant and fearful adults. What used to be common sense has disappeared. Grown men and women cower and shake when a gun is around.

Would the flight crew have aborted the flight had a bow and arrow been found under a seat? Or a long knife?

A single firearm, an inanimate object lying inertly without a person attached to it, was enough to terrify Delta into bringing down an airliner ... and that story made national news on the AP Wire.

Understand: this is a sign of the huge victory the victim disarmament lobby has won in the war of ideas.

Need confirmation? Click on:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20000330_xnjdo_sixth_grad.shtml

(Previously posted on TFL)

Jon Dougherty's article there describes how a sixth-grade student was disciplined and sent to psychological counseling because he advocated rational self-defense and the Second Amendment. No joke -- read it -- see the thought-police state in action. Then you'll see how morally bizarre this nation is becoming -- all the result of firearms fear-mongering. Will the enemy win the hearts and minds of all Americans?

Folks, we have a mighty lot of work to do to save our national sanity and our individual liberty. Let's get moving!

Click on http://www.jpfo.org and look at the many educational tools, the strategies to change the terms of the debate. Practically everything you need to use is available, much of it absolutely free on the website.

Take action! Use just one of these tools or strategies, but do it now. When the firearms confiscation order arrives in your mailbox, it will be way too late.

The Liberty Crew

[This message has been edited by Skyhawk (edited April 06, 2000).]
 
I think the gun should sue Delta!
My god, it was in the lavatory...where privacy is demanded the most. It's most intimate moments...naked on the sink, where it was likely cleaning itself.
The stewardess barges right it....good thing it wasn't smoking, Federal anti-smoking charges would be levied.
That gun's privacy was violated! Send for Johnny Cochran!

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It's more likely that they did the emergency landing because of a potential hi-jacker on board. That's probably why the FBI interviewed all the passengers. There may also be some kind of FAA regulation about having to land immediatly if something like this happens. I dunno.
 
I'm surprised the authorties weren't there to arrest it when it walked off the plane :D

I thought it was kind of funny when I read it too, couldn't anyone just UNLOAD it until the flight ended? Was it a time bomb waiting to go off? I take it they don't clean those bathrooms too often :D

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I guess all that money they've been spending on airport security just went down the toilet!
Anyone care to explain how that thing got on the aircraft in the first place?
Maybe they just beamed it down from the Starship Enterprise by accident. ;)
 
I live in Portsmouth, VA, which is adjacent to Norfolk. This story got wall-to-wall coverage here in the newspapers and the television news. The passengers couldn't understand why they all had to sit around for 6-plus hours answering questions about a gun none of them had anything to do with. I'm with the comments above: if the gun was unloaded, found by a passenger (he obviously didn't put it there, or he wouldn't have turned it in), and turned over to the crew, then what's the problem? Someone got a gun on a plane, and it was discovered before anyone could create any mischief. Get over it.
 
Seems as if very serious question could/should be raised as to the stability/competence of the pilot in command of the Delta flight.

If he "rattles" that easily, is he, the pilot, stable enough to be entrusted with a commercial airliner, and it's passengers, perhaps not.

Perhaps a judgement for Delta management to make, though what is currently PC will likely weigh heavily on any decisions they might make, as perhaps it did in the case of the pilots action.

Seems likle a "hell of a thing" though.



[This message has been edited by alan (edited April 07, 2000).]
 
Under CFR Title 14, Part 108, Sect. 108.11 the pilot of the aircraft would have had to land the aircraft as soon as possible (loaded weapon in the passenger hold). If he had not he could/would have been "violated" (certificate revoked, which means no job) by the FAA or some other alphabet soup organization. I also wouldn't criticize his decision to land the aircraft even if he was the sole decision-maker since he holds the ultimate responsibility for the safety of the passengers and operation of the aircraft. The pilot and flight crew also shouldn't be criticized for not knowing how to operate a gun, nor should they be mandated to know how too because that's not their job (being in pilot training my self though the many pilots I know, do know how to handle firearms safely).

So the landing of the plane had nothing to do with Delta policy, or the pilot being "rattled," but for the reason that if they didn't land the plane in Virginia there would have been fines, firings, and lawsuits waiting for them in Florida. What they did to the passengers in Virginia was pretty excessive though (6 hours?!?!!).

Hope I didn't step on anybody's toes, but I just want to clear up any confusion.
 
Hmmm... Where did that gun come from? Perhaps Fred the Fed left it there by accident then decided to play dumb when it was discovered.

The moral of the story: If you're the airline passenger who finds a gun in the lavatory, unload it and turn it over to the authorities AFTER the plane has landed at your destination.
 
You know, if it was something "decent", I might have, um, slipped it into my pocket. After all, I was already PAST the metal detectors.

Free $500 pistol anyone?

;)
 
My sentiments exactly. Free gun you can turn in at the next no questions asked gun grab, I mean buy back.

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