Vektor 9 mill

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Jaydeman

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Greetings, all!

I went to the range last night, and in the glass case they had a firearm called, or of the brand, Vektor. It was a pretty interesting looking gun, all angles and curves, and looked more solid than other wanna-be futuristic types that I've seen. It was a 9 mill, roughly $460 or so, does anyone have any information about this gun at all?
 
The Vektor CP1 (the model you saw) is a South African import, fairly new to the US. Most of the major gun rags have done a story on it, including the latest issue of Guns Magazine (it's on the cover). The overall reaction has been good. BTW, $460 is WAY overpriced for that gun. You can pick them up at shows for around $400, and if you're realy interested, I know a dealer who should be able to get it for just a touch under $400 NIB.

- Dave
 
The Vektor is made here so I see a lot of them on the range.Stay away from it because it is a waste of time and money.They arent reliable enough for a defence weapon.Spend your money on something that works.
 
TVN -

I'm curious what problems you've seen with these. Not questioning your statement, but a little more data would be nice. I've considered purchasing one, and have looked them over well. While the fit an finish isn't as good as a $600+ Sig, it appears quite statisfactory. I'll have to defer to you, of course, since I've not actually fired one yet. However, all of the reviews I've read have indicated that there were virtually no problems with the guns assuming that the recommended cleaning intervals were maintained. Also, Guns Magazine found a particular type of ammo that refused to function in the CP1, but was prefectly reliable with other types.

- Dave
 
Iv'e read many articles on the VEKTOR and they seem to be alright for the price. I have a couple problems with them though;
How good is thier warranty?
Where do you send them if they need fixed?
Being made in South Africa, will the company be around in say 5 years?......
I think I could find a better gun for the same price that was made by a better company.
Say... Smith & Wesson Sigma maybe!
CALVIN
" want MORE gun control? use BOTH hands! "
 
All valid questions, Calvin, but they don't address the biggest reason most people will purchase the CP1 - the way it looks. Not looking to start a huge thread on the tool vs. toy debate, but honestly, the gun just looks cool. How many people buy cars because they like the way they look? I'm not suggesting that anyone risk their life with a weapon that they purchased because it looked cool, but that's what'll happen. Assuming that the reliability and quality are otherwise acceptable, I don't see it as a reason to deter someone from purchasing it. Just my $.02.
 
From what I've seen and read, they sound pretty decent, but if I were going to buy something along those lines, it would be that new Steyr with the triangle sights. It fits and feels real nice. I'm sure the sights would take a little getting used to, but from those I know that have tried them, they're outstanding and incredibly quick. Just my thoughts.
-John
 
Actually, looks aside, I'm more interested
in it because it has a fixed barrel/blowback
(if those are the right terms) very much
like the H&K P7M8.

What are the reliabilty problems people have
encountered. A separate thread here claims
that the 6,000 rounds befoare major malfunction
comment in the manual is a mistranslation.

Thanks


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ahlan wa sahlan
PCV Yemen 1984-86
 
the VP70 lives!: http://www.unsuave.com/~hkpro/VP70.htm
;)

there are a few threads on TFL on the Vektor CPI, one concern is that it's intended purpose is a back up, limited use gun...
another concern was the ease that the saftey can be engaged accidentally

i kinda like the SP1 look better http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/machine_guns/vektor/index.html
isn't there a CPII now?
let me go poke Vector: http://www.denel.co.za/vektor/subpages/pistols%20subpgs/cp1.htm

nope nothing on the new one yet

the rumor i heard was that the CPI was being dumped to distributers as the CPII was in the wings...

gunsareus has 'em for 400 bucks: http://gunsareus.com/specials.htm

dZ
 
I think the main problem with the Vektor is parts and service. Sooner or later, the Vektor will wear down. How much of a hassel will it be to get it repaired? How long would the wait be? With that in mind, I think it's better to just purchase an American made gun. If down the road, those questions can be answered, then the gun would be a good purchase. I just don't want to be a guinea pig.

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Svt
NRA, GOA, VFW
Son's Place

Rangers Lead the Way
 
I'm about to be sent a CP-1 for a magazine test. I'm planning to put a thousand rounds or so through it without cleaning. I'll report how it goes.

The Vektor CP-II, by the way, is a S&W .40 version of the CP-I. The outside of the two guns is apparently identical, but the .40 WON'T have the gas retarded slide design.

The guns are being imported by Michael and Cristina Danforth. I've spoken with them a few times, and they seem to be setting up a first rate operation. I suspect they'll be around for awhile. They're both very sharp.
 
MRW -

Re: your intended test

Are these 1000 rounds going to be after the factory recommended cleaning intervals for the first 200 rounds?

- Dave
 
DaveInTx,

Presumably--I haven't seen the manual yet, but it wouldn't be meaningful to discover that a gun jams when one hasn't followed a manufacturer's published break-in routine. I'm excited to give this pistol a test run. Vektor claims to have devoted much engineering and design resources to this thing. And if it actually is a P7 without the squeeze cocker in terms of function (but at $400), it ought to be an amazing gun.
 
MRW -

Thanks for the clarification! I've seen too many cases where people ignore manufacturers' recommendations, and then blame them when problems occur!

In that case, I'll definitely be interested in seeing the results of your test.

- Dave
 
DaveInTxs
The cp1 is popular here because of the low price so we see a lot on the range.They are very ammo sensitive.We had a couple do a course with their cp1`s and they both struggled to get through 6 rounds without a stoppage.They were using chinese norinco ball which usually works okay.Thinking it might be ammo related we tried the following ammo all without any luck,PMC 115gr jhp, Remington 115gr +p jhp, PMP 115gr ball and local state issue military ball.They had faliures to feed, eject, extract and cycle.On the one day they were on the range 2 lanes down I had someone who also had a cp1 his only worked reliabily with win 127gr+p+ sxt`s.Norinco,PMP and Magtech ball didnt work better than 70%.The others I have had on the range work about 80-90% with PMP ball.This is not up to my standerds for a carry gun
 
Stay away from that Vector POS!

Fit and feel matches it's looks. All show and no staying power. We have several collectors who have them for toys but they only bring them out once and a while. Never seen one in an IPSC/IDPA shoot. That's how I judge a gun - if someone feels they can shoot a tournament with one, it's worth looking at.

Plus that the safety buttons look and feel like they came out of a Cracker Jack box.

Owners say accuracy is okay but the sights suck and getting parts and service from SA is a scary concept.

For that money, get a gun not a toy. SA isn't doing well in the gun manufacturing arena with Tressitu and their TZ99, Sig P220 clone - remember those guns? What ever happened there? Could Vectors disappear that easily too? H*LL YEAH.

Toys are for boys, guns are for men.



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The Seattle SharpShooter
 
They are junk!!! Only good for about 4000 rounds!! :( Stay away from them!! :)

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there is no such thing as owning just one gun!!!

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