VA-ALERT: Anti-Gun Diane Rehm Show, on NPR 10 AM EST, Monday March
13, 2000
>Please TAKE PART IN the Diane Rehm Show on Monday, March 13, 2000, starting
>at 10 AM.
>
>The show is going to be about gun control, trigger locks, and smart guns.
>
>The show is carried on WAMU, Washington, DC, 88.5 MHz FM. It is also
carried
>on other NPR affiliate stations. See http://www.wamu.org/dr/affils.html
for
>the list of stations.
>
>The Diane Rehm Show is also streamed over the Internet using Real Audio.
If
>you want to listen via Real Audio, go to http://www.wamu.org/dr/ and click
on
>the link.
>
>If you don't yet have a Real Audio Player, go to
>http://www.real.com/player/index.html?src=404
>where you can download a FREE Real Player 7 BASIC player, or pay for the
>enhanced version (Real Player 7 PLUS, I use the free player). It can take
a
>while to download, so don't wait for the morning of the show to do the
>download.
>
>The show is reported to have US Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) or US
>Congressional Representative Bob Barr (R-GA) as guests. You can bet
ANTIGUN
>Diane Rehm will have antigun guests as well. Ms. Rehm once said "No one
>should ever be allowed to carry a concealed revolver."
>
>GOA has some unflattering gun control information on Orrin Hatch at:
>http://www.gunowners.org/sut0600.htm and
>http://www.gunowners.org/sut0800.htm
>
>I couldn't find any related information on the NRA web site.
>
>The Call In Phone Number is 800-433-8850. To get through, dial in early or
>try to dial when they are just finishing up with a caller. You can grab
the
>line they are freeing by hanging up on that caller.
>
>You will hear a blast of noise as they select your line to be on the air.
>This noise is used by their telephone interface to optimize the hybrid for
>your line, BUT it is an indication that you are now on the air. Also,
while
>waiting on hold, you will hear the program PRE-DELAY. Turn down your
radio,
>and listen on the phone.
>
>To get on the air, don't be too specific about your subject. Say something
>like, "I want to get on the air to discuss trigger locks." That way, they
>don't know if you are pro rights, or a gun grabber.
>
>You can also e-mail the show at DRShow@WAMU.org DON'T TRY TO SEND E-MAIL
TO
>ANY ADDRESS DIANE REHM SAYS OVER THE AIR. She is in her 60's and has yet
to
>figure out the difference between a web site (URL) and an e-mail address.
It
>is kind of funny.
>
>Key points:
>
>TRIGGER LOCKS: Clinton is putting on this new push because of the shooting
>of a six year old girl, by a six year old boy. The boy's father is in
jail.
>His mother is a crack cocaine addict. His mother was evicted from their
>home, so she sent the boy to live in another crack house with his uncle, a
>crack dealer. In this crack house, people would trade stolen guns for
crack
>cocaine.
>
>Crack dealers need guns because they cannot call the police if they are
>robbed (of money and/or cocaine). Therefore their guns must be readily
>available, which means no trigger locks. IF CLINTON WANTS TO PASS AN
>APPROPRIATE LAW, HE SHOULD TRY TO PASS A LAW THAT REQUIRES CRACK DEALERS TO
>SECURE THEIR GUNS WITH TRIGGER LOCKS IN CRACK HOUSES!
>
>Trigger locks are a panacea. People get confident that the gun is safe,
not
>realizing that the gun can still be loaded with the lock in place.
Further,
>the lock can be removed, OR just manipulated to fire the gun. Trigger
locks
>are unsafe. Cable locks through the action are much better.
>
>GUNS THAT CANNOT BE FIRED BY SIX YEAR OLDS: Guns that cannot be fired by
six
>year old boys cannot be fired by 70 year old ladies. Shouldn't seniors be
>able to defend themselves.
>
>FIGURES LIE, LIARS FIGURE: Guns are used up to 2.5 MILLION times a year by
>law abiding citizens to defend themselves. In nearly every case, the gun
is
>never fired. (Lott and Mustard, University of Chicago)
>
>The Clinton Administration directed the Janet Reno Justice Department to
>refute that statistic. It is reported they tried, but the best they could
do
>is reduce the number to between 1 and 1.5 million times a year. Not a good
>statistic if one wants to disarm the law abiding public.
>
>Ms. Rehm LOVES this one: The statistic that a gun in the home is 43 times
>more likely to be used to KILL a family member or FRIEND is TOTALLY
SPECIOUS.
> Dr. Kellerman, who did the "study" only used one county. He also counted
>ANYONE WHO HAD CROSSED THE PATH OF ANYONE INVOLVED, including people who
live
>in the same building, or might have crossed paths at a supermarket
checkout,
>as a FRIEND. Even Kellerman has disavowed this study, though it continues
as
>an URBAN LEGEND.
>
>Dr. Kellerman did a SECOND STUDY, WHICH IS NEVER REPORTED. In his SECOND
>STUDY, the number dropped to 2.7 times, EVEN THOUGH HE USED THE SAME
TWISTED
>LOGIC.
>
>Kellerman used KILLINGS as the only measure of EFFECTIVE defensive use of a
>handgun. In MOST cases, once the gun is produced, the criminal runs. Law
>abiding citizens do not shoot criminals unless forced, so Kellerman ignores
>these, IN FACT MOST, defensive uses. Even if the criminal was shot,
>Kellerman ignored those defensive uses as the criminal was not killed. Is
>this bad reporting? You bet! Is this cooking the books? YOU BET! Law
>abiding, normal humans, do not wish to kill anyone.
>
>Dr. Kellerman also reported that you have a THREE TIMES greater chance of
>being KILLED if you live in an apartment building, as opposed to a single
>family home. Using this logic, we should ban apartment buildings.
>
>Yet the media keeps reporting 43 times! They even get the rest of those
>details wrong. As I wrote, Rehm LOVES to trot this one out.
>
>GUN SHOWS: Why is Clinton forcing this now? The kid growing up in a crack
>house did not have anything to do with any gun show.
>
>The "MEDIA" has been reporting that DEALERS have to run background checks
in
>their stores, BUT NOT AT GUN SHOWS! We all know that is not true. I
finally
>got NPR (the network, not the Diane Rehm Show, which is done at a station,
>not the network) to understand the difference between DEALERS and CITIZENS.
>They did not report on the story for four hours, until they checked out the
>details. I don't know who they called, but the story came back, correctly
>reporting that dealers have to do background checks at shows, but they
added
>additional incorrect information.
>
>They stated that the majority of sellers at gun shows are private sellers,
>not dealers. We all know this is not true. Dealers outnumber private
>sellers by at least 25 tables to one. Also, private sellers don't buy
tables
>show after show, because they just want to sell what they have to sell,
>without incurring an additional $45 table fee at the next show. On the
other
>hand, most dealers get at least four tables, and many get 10 or 12.
>
>Be sure to emphasize that not only has the media been misreporting the fact
>that background checks are not done at shows, but they have been unwilling
to
>check the facts and report properly. They just accept what Clinton has to
>say, including that he "did not have sex with that woman!"
>
>WAITING PERIODS: Once again, Clinton is pushing this even though it would
>not have changed a thing for that six year old girl, and for no good
reason.
>
>The NRA accepted the Brady Law IN EXCHANGE FOR NO WAITING PERIODS!
Surprise,
>surprise, now the gun grabbers want the waiting period too. A 24 hour
>waiting period at gun shows nearly kills gun shows because nearly all gun
>shows are one weekend, Saturday and Sunday. If the rabid gun grabbers get
>their way, and get a three day waiting period, there cannot be any gun
shows.
> THAT is their goal, the end of gun shows. I know people who will not
attend
>Sunday shows because of church, or Saturday shows, for the same reason
(Jews
>and Seventh Day Adventists).
>
>THE NRA. Gun Grabbers make the NRA into this monolith, that has no people
>involved in it. It is just this machine that has loads of money. Please
>explain that the NRA is made up of people. More than THREE MILLION PEOPLE.
>Unlike unions, where members are forced to give their money to politicians
>and efforts to which they don't agree or they loose their jobs, people give
>money to the NRA voluntarily.
>
>There is the big difference. NOBODY has to give money to the NRA. Union
>workers MUST pay their union dues (except in the few "Right To Work"
states,
>like Virginia).
>
>BRADY LAW: The Clinton administration is reporting that nearly 500,000
>criminals have been stopped from buying guns because of the Brady Law. Why
>then, have only six people been prosecuted for violating this Federal Gun
>Law? Why is only ONE serving time?
>
>Why does the FBI say it is only a bit over 200,000? Maybe because they
don't
>want to tell a lie when the facts are SO EASY to check?
>
>Even this 200,000 is made up of non crimes. I know a person who tried to
buy
>a gun before the 30 day limit had been met in Virginia. He was delayed,
then
>denied his right to buy a gun. The Virginia State Police told him to come
>back the next day, which he did. He was delayed, and denied the next day.
>Why? Not only had he counted days wrong, but the STATE POLICE COUNTED
WRONG
>TOO! The State Police Supervisor was VERY apologetic to both the dealer
and
>the customer. Yet, this counts as TWO denials, TWO CRIMINALS DENIED GUNS!
>Yea, right. I have seen many people denied for the 30 day rule. None are
>criminals, but all are part of the statistic.
>
>Still, why does Clinton feel the need to lie and inflate the numbers?
>
>Please do your best to get through and tell the truth!
>
>Ward W. Fetrow, III
>
>
>
>
>VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL).
VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to
defending the civil rights of all Virginians. The membership considers the
right to keep and bear arms an essential civil right.
>
>VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org
13, 2000
>Please TAKE PART IN the Diane Rehm Show on Monday, March 13, 2000, starting
>at 10 AM.
>
>The show is going to be about gun control, trigger locks, and smart guns.
>
>The show is carried on WAMU, Washington, DC, 88.5 MHz FM. It is also
carried
>on other NPR affiliate stations. See http://www.wamu.org/dr/affils.html
for
>the list of stations.
>
>The Diane Rehm Show is also streamed over the Internet using Real Audio.
If
>you want to listen via Real Audio, go to http://www.wamu.org/dr/ and click
on
>the link.
>
>If you don't yet have a Real Audio Player, go to
>http://www.real.com/player/index.html?src=404
>where you can download a FREE Real Player 7 BASIC player, or pay for the
>enhanced version (Real Player 7 PLUS, I use the free player). It can take
a
>while to download, so don't wait for the morning of the show to do the
>download.
>
>The show is reported to have US Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) or US
>Congressional Representative Bob Barr (R-GA) as guests. You can bet
ANTIGUN
>Diane Rehm will have antigun guests as well. Ms. Rehm once said "No one
>should ever be allowed to carry a concealed revolver."
>
>GOA has some unflattering gun control information on Orrin Hatch at:
>http://www.gunowners.org/sut0600.htm and
>http://www.gunowners.org/sut0800.htm
>
>I couldn't find any related information on the NRA web site.
>
>The Call In Phone Number is 800-433-8850. To get through, dial in early or
>try to dial when they are just finishing up with a caller. You can grab
the
>line they are freeing by hanging up on that caller.
>
>You will hear a blast of noise as they select your line to be on the air.
>This noise is used by their telephone interface to optimize the hybrid for
>your line, BUT it is an indication that you are now on the air. Also,
while
>waiting on hold, you will hear the program PRE-DELAY. Turn down your
radio,
>and listen on the phone.
>
>To get on the air, don't be too specific about your subject. Say something
>like, "I want to get on the air to discuss trigger locks." That way, they
>don't know if you are pro rights, or a gun grabber.
>
>You can also e-mail the show at DRShow@WAMU.org DON'T TRY TO SEND E-MAIL
TO
>ANY ADDRESS DIANE REHM SAYS OVER THE AIR. She is in her 60's and has yet
to
>figure out the difference between a web site (URL) and an e-mail address.
It
>is kind of funny.
>
>Key points:
>
>TRIGGER LOCKS: Clinton is putting on this new push because of the shooting
>of a six year old girl, by a six year old boy. The boy's father is in
jail.
>His mother is a crack cocaine addict. His mother was evicted from their
>home, so she sent the boy to live in another crack house with his uncle, a
>crack dealer. In this crack house, people would trade stolen guns for
crack
>cocaine.
>
>Crack dealers need guns because they cannot call the police if they are
>robbed (of money and/or cocaine). Therefore their guns must be readily
>available, which means no trigger locks. IF CLINTON WANTS TO PASS AN
>APPROPRIATE LAW, HE SHOULD TRY TO PASS A LAW THAT REQUIRES CRACK DEALERS TO
>SECURE THEIR GUNS WITH TRIGGER LOCKS IN CRACK HOUSES!
>
>Trigger locks are a panacea. People get confident that the gun is safe,
not
>realizing that the gun can still be loaded with the lock in place.
Further,
>the lock can be removed, OR just manipulated to fire the gun. Trigger
locks
>are unsafe. Cable locks through the action are much better.
>
>GUNS THAT CANNOT BE FIRED BY SIX YEAR OLDS: Guns that cannot be fired by
six
>year old boys cannot be fired by 70 year old ladies. Shouldn't seniors be
>able to defend themselves.
>
>FIGURES LIE, LIARS FIGURE: Guns are used up to 2.5 MILLION times a year by
>law abiding citizens to defend themselves. In nearly every case, the gun
is
>never fired. (Lott and Mustard, University of Chicago)
>
>The Clinton Administration directed the Janet Reno Justice Department to
>refute that statistic. It is reported they tried, but the best they could
do
>is reduce the number to between 1 and 1.5 million times a year. Not a good
>statistic if one wants to disarm the law abiding public.
>
>Ms. Rehm LOVES this one: The statistic that a gun in the home is 43 times
>more likely to be used to KILL a family member or FRIEND is TOTALLY
SPECIOUS.
> Dr. Kellerman, who did the "study" only used one county. He also counted
>ANYONE WHO HAD CROSSED THE PATH OF ANYONE INVOLVED, including people who
live
>in the same building, or might have crossed paths at a supermarket
checkout,
>as a FRIEND. Even Kellerman has disavowed this study, though it continues
as
>an URBAN LEGEND.
>
>Dr. Kellerman did a SECOND STUDY, WHICH IS NEVER REPORTED. In his SECOND
>STUDY, the number dropped to 2.7 times, EVEN THOUGH HE USED THE SAME
TWISTED
>LOGIC.
>
>Kellerman used KILLINGS as the only measure of EFFECTIVE defensive use of a
>handgun. In MOST cases, once the gun is produced, the criminal runs. Law
>abiding citizens do not shoot criminals unless forced, so Kellerman ignores
>these, IN FACT MOST, defensive uses. Even if the criminal was shot,
>Kellerman ignored those defensive uses as the criminal was not killed. Is
>this bad reporting? You bet! Is this cooking the books? YOU BET! Law
>abiding, normal humans, do not wish to kill anyone.
>
>Dr. Kellerman also reported that you have a THREE TIMES greater chance of
>being KILLED if you live in an apartment building, as opposed to a single
>family home. Using this logic, we should ban apartment buildings.
>
>Yet the media keeps reporting 43 times! They even get the rest of those
>details wrong. As I wrote, Rehm LOVES to trot this one out.
>
>GUN SHOWS: Why is Clinton forcing this now? The kid growing up in a crack
>house did not have anything to do with any gun show.
>
>The "MEDIA" has been reporting that DEALERS have to run background checks
in
>their stores, BUT NOT AT GUN SHOWS! We all know that is not true. I
finally
>got NPR (the network, not the Diane Rehm Show, which is done at a station,
>not the network) to understand the difference between DEALERS and CITIZENS.
>They did not report on the story for four hours, until they checked out the
>details. I don't know who they called, but the story came back, correctly
>reporting that dealers have to do background checks at shows, but they
added
>additional incorrect information.
>
>They stated that the majority of sellers at gun shows are private sellers,
>not dealers. We all know this is not true. Dealers outnumber private
>sellers by at least 25 tables to one. Also, private sellers don't buy
tables
>show after show, because they just want to sell what they have to sell,
>without incurring an additional $45 table fee at the next show. On the
other
>hand, most dealers get at least four tables, and many get 10 or 12.
>
>Be sure to emphasize that not only has the media been misreporting the fact
>that background checks are not done at shows, but they have been unwilling
to
>check the facts and report properly. They just accept what Clinton has to
>say, including that he "did not have sex with that woman!"
>
>WAITING PERIODS: Once again, Clinton is pushing this even though it would
>not have changed a thing for that six year old girl, and for no good
reason.
>
>The NRA accepted the Brady Law IN EXCHANGE FOR NO WAITING PERIODS!
Surprise,
>surprise, now the gun grabbers want the waiting period too. A 24 hour
>waiting period at gun shows nearly kills gun shows because nearly all gun
>shows are one weekend, Saturday and Sunday. If the rabid gun grabbers get
>their way, and get a three day waiting period, there cannot be any gun
shows.
> THAT is their goal, the end of gun shows. I know people who will not
attend
>Sunday shows because of church, or Saturday shows, for the same reason
(Jews
>and Seventh Day Adventists).
>
>THE NRA. Gun Grabbers make the NRA into this monolith, that has no people
>involved in it. It is just this machine that has loads of money. Please
>explain that the NRA is made up of people. More than THREE MILLION PEOPLE.
>Unlike unions, where members are forced to give their money to politicians
>and efforts to which they don't agree or they loose their jobs, people give
>money to the NRA voluntarily.
>
>There is the big difference. NOBODY has to give money to the NRA. Union
>workers MUST pay their union dues (except in the few "Right To Work"
states,
>like Virginia).
>
>BRADY LAW: The Clinton administration is reporting that nearly 500,000
>criminals have been stopped from buying guns because of the Brady Law. Why
>then, have only six people been prosecuted for violating this Federal Gun
>Law? Why is only ONE serving time?
>
>Why does the FBI say it is only a bit over 200,000? Maybe because they
don't
>want to tell a lie when the facts are SO EASY to check?
>
>Even this 200,000 is made up of non crimes. I know a person who tried to
buy
>a gun before the 30 day limit had been met in Virginia. He was delayed,
then
>denied his right to buy a gun. The Virginia State Police told him to come
>back the next day, which he did. He was delayed, and denied the next day.
>Why? Not only had he counted days wrong, but the STATE POLICE COUNTED
WRONG
>TOO! The State Police Supervisor was VERY apologetic to both the dealer
and
>the customer. Yet, this counts as TWO denials, TWO CRIMINALS DENIED GUNS!
>Yea, right. I have seen many people denied for the 30 day rule. None are
>criminals, but all are part of the statistic.
>
>Still, why does Clinton feel the need to lie and inflate the numbers?
>
>Please do your best to get through and tell the truth!
>
>Ward W. Fetrow, III
>
>
>
>
>VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL).
VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to
defending the civil rights of all Virginians. The membership considers the
right to keep and bear arms an essential civil right.
>
>VCDL web page: http://www.vcdl.org