US Springfield 45-70 and W M Wingert rifle value help

[easyliven88]

Hello all, I’m just looking for some valuing help from some knowledgeable folks. I know it just a picture, but I’m inquiring for the general value and info on the top 2 in the pic. Top rifle is a US Springfield 45-70 with matching bayo and the 2nd from top is a W M Wingert rifle of unknown caliber. Not a lot of info on the latter rifle. I will say that both rifles have very minor dings/dents and the bores I’m told are good to very good.
Thanks for any help/info.

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[Jim Watson]

We need MUCH better pictures.
There are a lot of different Trapdoor Springfields, values vary.
Wm Wingert googles as a gunmaker in Detroit, 1837-1867.

And condition governs everything.