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fsmitka

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I am sure this has been covered before,but I need a simple explination on this.
I have AK magazines that are not marked so I have no idea if they are foreign or US. How many US parts are needed on a imported AK in order to use non-US made mag?
 
Go to http://922r.com/ for more info. Snip from that website below:

(178.39 otherwise known as 922(r) 10 Foreign parts law on semiauto Rifles & Shotguns)

Sec. 178.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:

(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or

(2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the provisions of Sec. 178.151; or

(3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the replacement of any part of such firearm.

(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates
 
This info certainly helps, but, for example, if you take a current wasr10/63 and use a non-US mag are you in violation?,
 
Not sure what parts in the WASR10/63 are US made, but here is the simplified version:

A typical AK has 16 922(r) parts (the WASR10/63 included). No more than 10 can be foreign made, which means you need 6 US made parts. The simple way to do this is: trigger, disconnector, hammer, pistol grip, foregrip, and stock.
Find out what US made parts your rifle comes with, then plan accordingly.

Here is the website I use to plan my 922(r) parts: http://gunwiki.net/Gunwiki/BuildAkVerifyCompliance
 
Thanks for the info. I know that both of my ak's are compliant, but I was not sure about the mags, even the ones that came with the rifles are not marked with the country of orgin.
 
Compliance is not independent of mags. If you have 6 US parts on the rifle itself, you can use foreign made mags. If you have 5 US parts on your rifle, one part of the magazine must be US made (body, follower, or base plate). If your rifle has 4 US parts, your magazine needs to have 2 US made parts. If your rifle only has 3 US made parts, all three parts of the magazine must be US made. Capiche?

The "6 US part" and "3 US part" rifles are compliant by themselves, but the former can take foreign magazines while the latter must take US made magazine.

If there are no US markings on the part, it is most likely foreign made.
 
922R requires a minimum of 6 us made parts. if you buy the WASR brand new then it ships with surplus romanian mags. if I recall correctly the trigger group(counts as 3 parts), the recoil spring, the reciever and the pistol grips are all american on WASRs. regardless of which is where your mags are made, your gun is compliant.
 
If your complete rifle by itself has LESS THAN 10 of the listed parts ,
it is 922r compliant , and the mags you use in it makes NO Difference.

99% of the AK types sold commercially by U.S. companies are compliant
as they stand.

I know of only ONE model which is sold with a U.S. mag to meet compliance.
 
I had never heard of a this until i read this post. Why the regulation on parts?
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Morons that we elect into office trying to control our access to weapons.

But just as the current crop of available AKs proves. There is a way around anything if you are ingenious enough.:D
 
I had never heard of a this until i read this post. Why the regulation on parts?
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not sure anyone knows why for sure as it is kinda retarded, but think it was an attempt to stop manufacturing of guns with imported parts kits, that didnt really work, american made parts quickly became available to get around 922 and still use mostly imported parts.
but maybe it created a few american jobs anyway.
 
If your complete rifle by itself has LESS THAN 10 of the listed parts ,
it is 922r compliant , and the mags you use in it makes NO Difference.
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See, that's not true, and that's where you need to be careful. If your rifle has 9 foreign made parts, which is less than 10 like you said, you would still need to use US made magazines as a foreign made magazine would put you at 12 foreign made parts.
 
That's Right...

Fewer than 10 foreign parts INCLUDING the magazine parts. Or maybe that's No MORE than 10 foreign parts. Either way BE CAREFUL!!
 
If the barrel has a welded on nut at the muzzle (like the WASR-10) does that change the equation?
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First off, current WASR-10s do not have a welded on nut. The ones sold during the AWB did (funny story, my friend picked up a ban WASR for super cheap once the AWB expired). All current WASR-10 models that I have seen come with the slant brake or barrel nut, which is a muzzle attachment, and does count as a 922r part.

Second, yes, it does change the equation. Since you no longer have a muzzle attachment, there is only 15 922r parts to worry about instead of 16.
 
After some research: Wasr-10 US made parts: Trigger group (3 parts) pistol grips. gas piston. These are marked as US made so, using foreign mags would be illegal, thus the warning sticker on the mag. supplied by Century Arms. A US made mag follower would made six parts and then legal with non-US made mag. Am I on the right track here?
 
You are on the right track, yes. There are 5 US parts on the weapon, so you either need to add one more, or use a magazine with at least 1 US made part.

My recommendation is to just keep all 6 parts on the rifle. There are US made stocks, foregrips, and muzzle attachments that are very easy to install. You could also just remove the muzzle attachment altogether.

AK Builder sells a USA made slant brake if you want that AKM look.
http://ak-builder.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29810
If you look around, there is also a USA made barrel nut.
 
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