US Atty drops some charges on Bob Stewart

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RickD

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The Fed-Gov has dropped the charges on Bob <www.maadigriffin.com> Stewart relating to his making .50 BMG kits. That is the good news. The bad news is that they are charging him with possession of other (functional) firearms (which may or may not be his wife's).

The other good news is that the BATF warrant is attackable, and will be addressed by the defense attorney.

All of the rifle raffle tickets have been sold and the rifle is in the hands of a friendly FFL who has seen to it that the rifle has a smart, bead-blasted finish. I don't know if he has found a donated scope for it but at least Thunderbird Cartridge (Levene, Az) has donated the 50 rounds of .50 BMG.

The drawing date is now final. Wednesday, September 20th at 7pm-9pm at the Tempe, Arizona Country Harvest Buffet meeting room.

The meeting will be for the raffle, yes, but mostly, as a call to organize the splintered pro-rights groups in the Phoenix area. More on that later.

Rick
 
Good news; If the BATF is no longer claiming that his kits are actually firearms, then the people who bought the kits are off the hook. The bad news, of course, is that they dropped the charge because they figured they'd lose, and in losing establish a precident favorable to US! It's better for Bob, but would have been better for us if they'd gone after him to the bitter end; This is how bad laws endure, by dropping prosecution of anyone who's got the guts to challenge them.

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Brett!!! Ya think? ;)

Yeah, they are like the neighborhood bullies and other assorted criminals. They only go after easy targets, especially when it helps their stature.

Bob is not out of the woods just yet. The question now is whether the wife of a felon can be in possession of firearms in the same house, G. Gordon Liddy notwithstanding.
 
Best news(personally) I've heard in a while!!!
crankshaft
paranoia is still a pretty good thing to have when they probably are still out to get You.
 
Could the DROPPING of the charges take presidense?? The only difference is that they ADMITTED that they were wrong when it came to the law, insead of having it prove by a third party (The Judical Sytem(

Ok time for be for me

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RickD,

If the government can try and say that Bob's wife cannot own firearms because she's married to a felon, then they're also saying she has lost her right to vote.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/local/html98/altsuit_082198.html

http://www.uscaselaw.com/9th/FILE2/987/575.html

Or to hold political office, or pursue being a lawyer, sheriff, or many other positions.

All because she has done nothing wrong.

Sounds like a clear case of malicious persecution, and a complete vilation of his rights as a citizen of the US.
Woe them if they try this crap.

As for the BATF dropping the charges. It's not the same as being proven innocent in court.
Where a precedent is likely to be set, and they know it. They also couldn't afford another slam-dunk during this administrations charge.
Basically, I see this as like pleading no contest, only they're not the one's being charged, they're the accusers.
"Oh well, we made a mistake, no har feelings!"

I certainly hope Stewart sues the Hell out of them for slander, defamation of character, loss of income due to incompetence of illegal, and unwarranted charges, and harrasment. To name a few.

[This message has been edited by Donny (edited September 02, 2000).]
 
There's a rumor circulating that when the JBTs asked Bob's wife "are these your guns" she said "no" - practically speaking that left only one possible owner left, and he's not supposed to have any. That "no" is the problem.

All together now:
"You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."
 
I'd say it's good news that the gun-building charges were dropped. Better than not dropped. He may be in trouble on the "they're my wife's guns" defense, though. What is the definition of "possess" with respect to items in the home?
 
I wonder if his wife is a co-owner /partner in their business(es). If so, she may actually be an owner, and techincally aware of it.
Just as she'd be financially responsible in the event of problems at the company. Of in their personal monetary affairs. Let's say, he is killed in an auto accident, and if she's partner, then she's liable, and responsible, as well as the recipient of all monies form the enterprises.

I'm not sure what guns were being referenced here, but if they're again technically NOT GUN'S, but kits, then where's the problem. If it's about other complete, functioning firearms, then he has a job to do. One, such as I'd mentioned in the above enbtry, concerning his State's possible failure to reinstate his rights.

This is a Lawyer's domain, but it never hurt you to be aware of these noxious, and obscure laws.
 
A message (and clarification) from Bob...

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Rick, thank you for your great efforts and help. The case is still the same, the BATF did not drop the 'readily' converted part of the indictment, they are using that illegally obtained search warrant to press charges on
what they 'allegedly' "found". [ I cannot get into details at this time] I was set up by the FEDS in Utah in 1993. There is a lot of talk and misinformation about the details of it, but basically, it was a deliberate
set up, on a law that really did even exist, and totally outside of their jurisdiction, but anyway, they bluffed me, scared me [a totally ignorant Constitutionally illiterate person at the time] and tricked me into pleading at a plea bargain [so I could keep my gun business and school teaching job]
and was promised that I wasn't really 'wanted by the feds', and that I would only see, at worst, 6 months of unsupervised release. They lied, I got the mandatory 2 years minimum from judge Bruce Jenkins. [that is another story.] Served 16 months at medium security Fed. Prison at San Diego, CA.
These FEDS are trecherous. They lied, deceived, and withheld vital information in order to get Magistrate Sitver to issue a search warrant. It was totally against the law, and we have proof, and the BATF has egg on their ugly faces. We are going to fight this to the bitter end. And by the way, we are getting NO HELP at all from NRA or GOA, those guys are fraud, they say they want to preserve our Second Amendment Rights, but where is it now? Where is it when it is needed?

Thanks, Bob
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My two cents worth, maybe I owe you three cents change....

I believe that the spouse of a felon can own guns, but they have to be inaccessible to the felon. That means in a gun safe which the felon does not know the combination to, yada yada. If not, either the felon is guilty of something, or the spouse is guilty of something, or both.

The (non-kit) gun that the feds found in Bob's house was supposedly not owned by either one of them. The initial stories I heard had his wife saying [I have nevere seen that before]. But federal LEOs would NEVER fabricate evidence so.... ???



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