UPS handgund issue

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gunpowder

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I just left the local gun dealer and he said that UPS is no longer shipping handguns because they had too many drives with sticky fingers. Their solution was to just not shif the product. He said it is for handguns only. I saw some negative post on UPS and though this additional info might be interesting.

This dealer had a MAILBOX ETC. who refused to ship a shotgun because he misunderstood the UPS policy and thought it pertained to all guns. The UPS drive has since corrected the misunderstanding. Want to ship cheaper, the dealer said the US mail is about $13 compaired to FEDEX at $20/handgun.
 
A MailBoxes Etc. UPS dealer operates under different rules than an actual UPS company location. They are UPS agents and resellers and not really UPS locations. (Even though they are truly owned by UPS, they are a separate corporate entity.)

Some Mailboxes are refusing handguns, while UPS itself is NOT doing that.

UPS is still shippping handguns from their own locations (and picking up handguns from many dealer sites), but doing it using their Next Day Air service, only.

They will then, as was the case in the past, ship only TO licensened dealers, distributors and manufacturers, and back to the source (such as an individual). Even though the guns aren't really necessarily going next day air, you pay the higher rate, to get the tighter controls and security.

Any licensened (Type 01) dealer can mail to any other licensened (Type 01) dealer using the postal service; always could. And it is much cheaper. Many dealers, for example, get their new guns from distributers by mail.

A private individual cannot use the US Postal Service for handguns; he or she can use it for long guns. And be warned: its not worth the risk of "mislabelling" the pkg, to "sneak" a handgun through, 'cause that's breaking a federal law and could get you in deep do do.

The only part of a handgun that can't be shipped through the mails is the receiver, which carries the serial number.) If you are getting work done on a slide, for example, you can ship the slide itself, using Priority Mail (for $3.20). Splitting the gun into two packages does not get around the problem, as only the receiver is considered a handgun.




[This message has been edited by Walt Sherrill (edited December 14, 1999).]
 
(Must've hit the "Submit Now" button twice. Sorry. I just wiped the message.)

[This message has been edited by Walt Sherrill (edited December 14, 1999).]
 
Walt, can you direct me to any source of info regarding not being able to ship handguns via USPS? Thanks.

Frank
 
As part of their new shipping policies,UPS will no longer allow shipping agents such as PostNet and Mailboxes,Etc. to accept ANY firearm for shipping via UPS. All firearms must be taken directly to a UPS shipping outlet.

Bill
 
My local dealer just mailed two handguns in Indiana so it is legal. Cost him a little over $13. I am pretty sure that is what he said. He was complaining about it costing $40 to ship two handguns to Arizona.

[This message has been edited by gunpowder (edited December 14, 1999).]
 
This is from the U.S. Postal Services Domestic Mail Manual. It is available at http://www.usps.gov/busctr. Use the Postal Explorer.

In short, unless you are a FFL, you can't mail a handgun.

Handguns 1.2
Pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person (referred to as handguns) are nonmailable unless mailed between the parties listed in 1.3 and 1.5 after the filing of an affidavit or statement required by 1.4 and 1.6.

Authorized Persons 1.3
Subject to 1.4, handguns may be mailed by a licensed manufacturer of firearms, a licensed dealer of firearms, or an authorized agent of the federal government or the government of a state, territory, or district, only when addressed to a person in one of the following categories for use in the person’s official duties:
a. Officers of the Army, Coast Guard, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, or Organized Reserve Corps.
b. Officers of the National Guard or militia of a state, territory, or district.
c. Officers of the United States or of a state, territory, or district, whose official
duty is to serve warrants of arrest or commitment.
d. USPS employees authorized by the Chief Postal Inspector.
e. Officers and employees of enforcement agencies of the United States.
f. Watchmen engaged in guarding the property of the United States, a state, territory, or district.
g. Purchasing agent or other designated member of agencies employing officers and employees included in 1.3c through 1.3e.

Manufacturers and Dealers 1.5
Handguns may also be mailed between licensed manufacturers of firearms and licensed dealers of firearms in customary trade shipments, or for repairing or replacing parts.
 
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