UPI - Bush Rebukes NRA for Attack on Clinton

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Texas Gov. George W. Bush, who is the chief contender for the Republican presidential nomination, rebuked Monday the National Rifle Association's attacks on President Clinton.

The NRA and Clinton have been involved in a war of words over gun control.

When asked about NRA Executive Vice President Wayne La Pierre's statement about Clinton, Bush said, "I would hope that we could have a open and honest discussion about gun enforcement without calling names."[/quote]



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Slowpoke Rodrigo...he pack a gon...

Vote for the Neal Knox 13
 
Sorry, Bush, but it's kind of hard to have an "open and honest" discussion with a sociopathic liar, without pointing out that he's lying.

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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
This just proves that Bush and Algore are joined at the hip, and have the same basic agenda.

I'm going to do something this November that I've never done before: vote Libertarian.

I can no longer in good conscience support either "mainstream" political party.
 
Peace be with you,

This is a serious error on Shrub's part.
This will harm Shrub's run for President.
LaPierre didn't "name call." Wayne is doing
the right thing.

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James R. McClure Jr.
Sir Knight of Columbus
Democrat candidate for Indiana's Ninth congressional district
 
Not that this is any surprise. Dubya's dad already sold out the NRA as soon as it became politically expedient. Some of us here on TFL have been predicting that Dubya would do the same.

I'd be interested in hearing from some Bush supporters about this cave-in to The Evil Al Gore -- remember, it was Gore who called on Bush yesterday to repudiate the NRA. Is Bush's action an example of how vigorously the Republicans will stand up for RKBA?

Dennis, you have the right idea. Vote Libertarian, now and always.
 
Where do libertarians stand on border controls and illegal immigration? Second Amendment rights and tough border controls have always been traditional allies.
 
Cleancut, we believe that peaceful people should be able to cross borders freely. Does that mean we would welcome Carlos The Jackal with open arms? Of course not. It simply means that anyone who wants to come here and work is welcome.
http://www.lp.org/platform/imm.html

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"If your determination is fixed, I do not counsel you to despair. Few things are impossible to diligence and skill. Great works are performed not by strength, but perseverance."
-- Samuel Johnson
 
Well, I hope you don't take it as a flame, but the fact is, you're in the minority among gun owners and more to the left, if you will, than the majority of Californians who voted in favor of Proposition 187. Politically, I don't know what good it would do for a gun owner to vote libertarian.
 
Hey listen you guys!

George W didn't rebuke ANYbody! Are you going to let the writer of this article color your thinking for you. All he said was...

When asked about NRA Executive Vice President Wayne La Pierre's statement about Clinton, Bush said, "I would hope that we could have an open and honest discussion about gun enforcement without calling names."

He did not bring up the subject. He only responded, when asked, that we should try to get along without name calling. Lapierre and Heston can get by with calling Clingon a liar, because they are not running for President of the United States.

Give Bush some credit! He did what he had to do to smooth over this issue with the least amount of damage to our side. This issue will resurface during the debates. The lack of prosecutions and the lying by this administration will come out. Bush needs to act presidential, and calling people liars and murderers isn't going to help him.

Yea, go ahead and vote Libertarian! Al Gore needs all of the help he can get.

Joe
 
I'd love to vote Libertarian, and I'll do it the moment they have a serious chance to win, not before. I'm not throwing my vote away, thanks. Meanwhile, it is, as usual, lesser of evils. The choice is damned clear between GW and Gore, especially if you think about Supreme Court appointments and the high likelihood of a Second Amendment case in the next few years. Byron
 
(pointedly ignoring the Libertarian-bashing)

Nralife, "smoothing over the issue" is the LAST thing we need! It's about friggin' time LaPierre found the stones to call Clinton what he is to his face.

If Bush was *truly* pro-gun, he'd stand firm with Wayne and Chuck, instead of trying to broker peace between mortal enemies. He just sounds like Carter getting in between Sadat and Begin, and accomplishing nothing.

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"If your determination is fixed, I do not counsel you to despair. Few things are impossible to diligence and skill. Great works are performed not by strength, but perseverance."
-- Samuel Johnson
 
Today’s news reports indicating that George W. Bush has effectively repudiated recent NRA attacks on the truthfulness of Bill Clinton provide an excellent example of why Bush will not be able to defeat The Evil Al Gore in this fall’s presidential election.

On Monday, Gore called on Bush to reject comments about Clinton made by NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre during a Sunday morning news program. Bush should have totally ignored this, as he should ignore any commands from the Gore camp. This is an issue for the NRA and its members, most of whom, like me, are apparently pleased to see the organization speaking out against Clinton and Gore’s consistent record of untruthfulness and political posturing on the gun control issue.

But in following Gore’s orders (mistake number one), Bush has made two additional mistakes.

First, he involved himself in a controversy he could easily have avoided. If he didn’t want to take a stand with the NRA, which would have impressed me, he should have stayed neutral. When pressed by reporters and Gore lackeys to reject the NRA’s comments, he should have said something like, “The NRA, just like any other organization in this country, has every right to express its opinions on political issues and on the conduct of public officials. I’m not going to tell them what they should or shouldn’t say, just as I hope Mr. Gore won’t presume to limit the First Amendment rights of any American citizens.” When pressed for some comment on the NRA commercials charging that Clinton is a liar, Bush could have said, “Well, I know that there have been a variety of comments from within and without the Democratic party about President Clinton’s truthfulness, but I’m focusing on my own campaign against Mr. Gore.” Similarly, he could have easily handled questions about LaPierre’s comments regarding Clinton’s willingness to use gun deaths to further his political agenda: “I’m focusing on my own campaign, and I’m not going to speculate on what might or might not be President Clinton’s motivations for his actions.” So, Governor Bush, you think it was acceptable for the NRA to say these mean things? “The NRA, just like every other organization…,” etc. Bush didn’t need to get involved in an issue not of his choosing. He was smart enough not to do this when asked about the Confederate flag in S.C. Too bad he wasn’t that smart this time. This is a mistake Gore doesn’t make.

Second, by speaking out on this issue, Bush has taken responsibility for the actions of his supporters. This is an even more serious mistake, and another one you don’t see Gore make. Take a look at the recent Buddhist fund-raising scandal: A Gore supporter is actually convicted of criminal activity on behalf of Gore, and Gore’s public comment is that he feels sorry for her. There’s no admission of shared responsibility, no repudiation of her actions, just an expression of compassion for someone in trouble. And the issue immediately fades from public view.

One of the basic strategies in political campaigning is to identify the most extreme elements of your opponent’s support, and make your opposition responsible for them. You see this all the time in Democratic charges about the Republican Party being held thrall by religious fanatics. When a candidate makes excuses for the actions of his supporters, he not only admits responsibility for those actions, but also alienates the supporters themselves. Think for a moment about animal rights extremists, gay-rights activists, and other hard-core single-issue groups that typically back Democrats. When did you ever hear of a Democrat criticizing them?

Gore is smart enough to stay out of controversies that don’t benefit him, and to be the beneficiary of the work of his supporters without taking responsibility for their actions. Bush has failed on both counts. In an election as close as this one is going to be, that kind of failure will make the difference between winning and losing.
 
While at heart I would love to back a true Libertarian candidate..I am sorry at this point I have to cast a vote for the lesser of 2 evils,while I feel GW is waffling on the gun issue a bit,he is playing politics and that should not surprise anyone. Please remember what happened in 1992,how do you think Clinton got elected? Perot struck a chord in Americans but if you think about it,Perot's take America back campain took the votes that probably would have elected a Republican. And Perots got a pretty good chunk of votes from fed up Republicans who seeemed to forget his pro-choice view on abortion. Hell, I admit I voted for the guy myself for those very reasons..fed up!!
There is just no way this country can afford another run of Democrats in the White House if we want to keep any rights at all//My 2 cents...PJ ;)
 
Who's come out of this looking like the good guy? Clinton? No. Gore? No. LaPierre? No (except to us and millions more). Bush gets to look like he's taking the high road through all this, and LaPierre can continue the attacks. David, there's another standard political strategy that calls for letting your opponent twist in the wind in a controversy while you say very little. Or let your surrogates (in this case LaPierre) use the nasty language. It's working. Clinton and Gore will be on defense, trying to claim prosecutions are up. And LaPierre can nail them on that. And Bush can stay out of the fray. It's a smart move on Bush's part.

Dick
 
PJ0759 blessed us with this:
" Please remember what happened in 1992,how do you think Clinton got elected?"

Well brother PJ, one reason Clinton got elected is that daddy Bush stabbed the gun
owners and free people of the united states square in the back with his very own personal assault weapons ban.

If you don't think that's a big reason, you are kidding yourself.

Now, alot of what I hear is that it doesn't matter that the republicans want tyrannical rule over the taxpayers and consumers of this country (newspeak for what was once called a citizen), they will protect our gun rights.

I say that our gun rights are protected by the constitution and by higher law, and politicians (I won't use statesmen, because I haven't seen one in while aside from Alan Keyes) would do well to consider that, and ignore it at their peril.

There is no excuse for Bush. None.

[This message has been edited by dog3 (edited March 14, 2000).]
 
Monkeyleg, I agree that neither Clinton, Gore, nor LaPierre came out of this looking good to the average soccer mom. But neither do I think Bush looks presidential when Gore says, "Hey, Bush speak out against this hurtful talk by your supporters," and Bush does so. Bush can't beat Gore by dancing to Gore's tune. He ought to be in Gore's face and telling him to kiss his ass -- you know, acting like Gore did when Gore whipped Bradley like a rented mule. That's the kind of campaign Gore is going to run against Bush, and if Bush didn't see that long ago, he's doomed.
 
I keep saying that there's no middle anymore, that the boundaries of discourse are defined by the Left. Clinton and Gore are borderline psychopaths who require human misery. If there isn't some agony going on, they have nothing to do. It is politically expedient for the Democrats to promote the causes of this agony. It's a national "Munchhausen-by-proxy" situation, where mothers cause their children harm in order to bask in the sympathy of police, EMTs, etc. If the child dies, well then, the mother gets more sympathy.
It's the same with the Democrats: nightmare levels of death and destruction give them excuses to promote pathogenic policies which promote more death and destruction, ad infinitum.

This is why there is no middle anymore. Unconditional outrage and indignation is the only appropriate response, followed by incarceration or hospitalization.

This is why there can be no compromise anymore. It's time to confront these sadists with the facts in the situation, instead of giving credence to their insane protestations to reality and "yes, but," constructs which relate to a subjunctive possibility entirely divorced from reality.
No morality is owed to a sadist.
Treating insane argument as if it were credible validates it.

Keyes understands this. That's why there's a media blackout on him.

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ALARM! ALARM! CIVILIZATION IS IN PERIL! THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE GATES!
 
Yep, GW acted just like his father, stabbing Gun Owners in the back. I sent him an E Mail expressing my disappointment over his comments.

Trouble is, Republicans think they have to stab us to gain favor with the soccer moms. They are so afraid of soccer moms they are forgetting who their base supporters are.

Perhaps the Republicans should change their symbol from the Elephant to chicken little!

At least the NRA is finally acting like they have a...Uh...you know :D


Geoff Ross
 
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