University of Nevada considers arming staff members

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Nevada College System Wants to Arm Faculty
Jonathan Humbert, Reporter
June 22, 2007 10:03 PM


The University of Nevada system is one step closer to letting professors, faculty and staff carry guns on campus.

It's a controversial plan that the Board of Regents agreed to on Thursday. Some students and staff are concerned it may not be the best idea.

The tragedy of Virginia Tech is still fresh in the minds of many in the collegiate world and campus police departments from Reno to Las Vegas are trying to find a better solution. But students are dumbfounded by the plan to arm teachers.

"So there would be no reason for a teachers to run around, just try to play hero with a gun," said Chris James, junior.

Still the Board of Regents plan would allow faculty take a 21-week course in Carson City. That class would cost more than $3,000 per person and the universities would pick up the tab. But it would use a legal loophole to essentially deputize the employee. That way they wouldn't break the law.

Right now it's a Class E felony to carry a gun on campus. Students like Zac Ingersoll have mixed feelings. As a former member of the military, he knows training is important, but 21 weeks of training might not be able to stop a Virginia Tech-like attack.

"It may get someone who just on a whim would do it, but most of the time, I don't think it'll do much," said Zac Ingersoll , junior. Both Ingersoll and Chris James say the issue isn't about teachers with guns, it's about loose campus security and the lack of officers on patrol.

"It would just be too crazy with teachers carrying guns around on campus. One of them might blow up and you never know what might happen if they start shooting," James said. Ingersoll agrees, saying training should be left to the professionals.

"And if they're trained in the proper response procedures to it, then I think a proper response is better than manpower," Ingersoll said.

And if the unthinkable happens on campus, these students want the real officers to be on the front lines. The plan will come up for a final vote later in the summer. Campus police also presented their changes for an active shooter scenario.

Campuses all across the nation have been updating their rules and students and faculty say this plan could jeopardize any situation, and even make a shooting more dangerous.

I can't believe that they're actually considering this. The board of regents plan as far as training is a little excessive, IMO, but certainly a step in the right direction. Like many state CCW laws, they need to get it approved, implemented and successfully working and then work to liberalize it.

-Dave
 
21 weeks of training isn't enough? Oh boy, get all your cops off the streets - thier academy wasn't 21 weeks, I'll bet. I have never heard of such a thing, or such blantant stupidity. I see they found a great military mind to debate this one. I am willing to bet that most of the positive CCW encounters in this country are with people who had FAR less than 21 weeks of training.
To quote a famous authority on idiocy, "What a moroon!"
 
Good LORD, parts of that article just make me want to cry.

Nevada College System Wants to Arm Faculty
Um, no, they just want to permit those already armed to exercise their rights. A totally different concept than issuing arms like they were joining the military. Nice attempt at spin by the paper though.

It's a controversial plan that the Board of Regents agreed to on Thursday. Some students and staff are concerned it may not be the best idea.
And this article focuses on those who are concerned that it's a bad idea. No quotes from the OTHERS who might think it's a good idea.

The tragedy of Virginia Tech is still fresh in the minds of many in the collegiate world and campus police departments from Reno to Las Vegas are trying to find a better solution. But students are dumbfounded by the plan to arm teachers.
The key word is "trying" to find a solution. In other words right now nothing has changed and people in these "free target" zones are still at risk.

Right now it's a Class E felony to carry a gun on campus. Students like Zac Ingersoll have mixed feelings. As a former member of the military, he knows training is important, but 21 weeks of training might not be able to stop a Virginia Tech-like attack.
21 weeks isn't enough? That's over FIVE MONTHS.

Both Ingersoll and Chris James say the issue isn't about teachers with guns, it's about loose campus security and the lack of officers on patrol.
Actually it's about the right to protect yourself, but it sounds like they'll never quite get around to thinking about that point.

"It would just be too crazy with teachers carrying guns around on campus. One of them might blow up and you never know what might happen if they start shooting," James said.
Ah yes, the old "blood will run in the streets" argument. Which has repeatedly just not happened. On the other hand, if just one loony is armed and runs loose in a target rich environment we surely do know what happens then.

And if the unthinkable happens on campus, these students want the real officers to be on the front lines.
Because, of course, this plan has worked so well in the past.

Campuses all across the nation have been updating their rules and students and faculty say this plan could jeopardize any situation, and even make a shooting more dangerous.
Because of course criminals and madmen obey the rules and also because situations such as Virginia Tech were obviously not so dangerous in the first place???
 
The reporter really should have titled the article, "U. Nevada has gone beserk and wants people cappin' each other left and right with vicious assault weapons!"

Would've saved me the trouble of having to read that article.
 
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