Universal clays v universal

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I have loaded 45 calibre using 200 grn cast bullets...I checked numerous sources and found 5.5 grains of universal...is that the same as universal clays...it isconfusing...anybody help?
 
Universal Clays is the OLD name; too many found it confusing having Clays, Universal Clays, and International Clays. Since mfg has been moved and the formula changed slightly, remember to use the correct data for the powder you have.
 
If Clays, International Clays, and Universal Clays are confusing names, why does nobody have trouble keeping Red Dot, Green Dot, and Blue Dot apart?

"Load 33 grains of Dot in that there shell, boy."

Or Hodgdon and IMR numbers. "Why can't I load 60 grains of 4895 in my .270? Sure, I know you said 4831, but it's only 64 different. That ain't much out of 4000."

I do know people who refer to loading 5 grains of Vihtavuori. Vihtavuori WHAT? They make about 30 different grades.
 
"Why can't I load 60 grains of 4895 in my .270? Sure, I know you said 4831,
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Don't forget about IMR 4831 and H4831 and IMR 4895 and H4895. While close, not the same.

And let's not forget that the Clays family also works well in handguns, and using the wrong one there can be an issue.......:eek:
 
Well, you can't change human nature, and some are quite easily confused:confused:. I suggest to new reloaders to find a load in a published manual, write the load down and tape it to the powder measure. Keep the powder bottle on the bench right next to the reloading "station". Sit down and review everything in front of you, reading aloud the powder charge and bullet. During the session, I suggest a double check every once in a while also noting the scale setting. It ain't as complicated nor time consuming as it sounds and it's help eliminate any loads of Green Dot loaded to Blue Dot levels...
 
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