Understanding the Military "M" designations

Steelhat

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Does anyone produce a chart that lists in order the description of "M-1" though "M-203 Grenade Launcher" equipment designations? M-1, M-14, M-16, etc., are so common. Is it possible to find a source so I can become familiar with the many others? I picked M-203 as the upper limit only because that is the highest one I know. I am sure there are a lot of obsolete/dead projects that must have "M" designations. I would be fun to learn what they are.

Anyone find a source for a chart?
 
"M" is for "Model". It is used so profusely that just gathering that information would take a lifetime - not to mention that a designation for one branch may be different for the same piece of equipment in another branch.
 
That's interesting - - I never served in the military (I really kinda regret that in my older age, now) but saw the world via the Dept. of State, but I always thought that "M" meant military.

Maybe we can start a chain here, where folks can send in the "M" firearms the have known and used, with a short description. I would be glad to tabulate. It would be interesting if anyone knows the more obscure ones.

Thanks all,
Steelhat (machinest, armorer student)
 
I believe I have seen such a list, though where, I do not know. However, I kind of think it may have been a list of vehicles, which is an even longer list. It's out there in radio land somewhere. I even know where you can find a copy of the manual for the Pattern 1914 leather equipment for the British Army, which won't help.
 
I can assure you that it will be quite an extensive list if completed in its entirety. Think for a moment...M-1 Rifle, M-1 Carbine, M-1 Tank... and that's just what I came up with in a few seconds for just M-1. M-2 Bradley, M-2 Carbine, M-2 BMG... see my point? The US Army is not known for originality of nomenclature... So many different types of military equipment has an M-# designation.
 
This wasn't exactly my field, but I've seen enough of this stuff to draw some conclusions.

It starts with the name of the thing. That's usually a noun with maybe some descriptive words floowing. Like "CANNON, 20 MM" then there is a colon.

Then there is either an M which means the thing is standard or an XM which means it hasn't been accepted for production.

After that there is a number. The numbers seem to be random, but for the most part they are in sequential order. Sometimes they can cycle back to 1.

Finally there is an alpha numeric designation. A letter followed by a number. These designate modifications to the thing. "A" means it's an official modification. E means the modification is experimental. The number following is how many modifications have been done.

For example, the Army's first assault rifle was the Rifle, 5.56 MM: M16. When they first started to fix it, it became the Rifle, 5.56MM: M16E1 and when the fix was official, it was the Rifle, 5.56MM: M16A1. The next version with the heavier barrel, improved sights etc was the Rifle, 5.56MM M16A2.

The Grenade Launcher you are talking about is a seperate item. It goes on (actually under the barrel) of an M16 (there is another version for the M4) and I think it's officially and GRENADE LAUNCHER, 40MM: M203. It isn't a rifle - although the barrel is rifled. It might be LAUNCHER, GRENDADE, 40MM. I'm not sure. I think they try to lead with the noun so you know how to find it in a list.

When you see things that don't follow this, it's usually because it wasn't the Army alone that developed it. For example a MACHINE GUN, 40 MM: MK19 is a Navy designation. You'll also see AN (like AN PVS 14) which I think is the result of a Joint Army Navy effort.

Like I said, this wasn't my field. You probably need to ask logistics type person. But I think I'm pretty close.
 
Oh, before I draw the obvious replay the the M1911 and M1903 for the pistol and rifle were years (as opposed to random sequence), those weren't done according to modern Army regulations. I'm not sure when those went into effect.

And I'm not sure about aircraft. Those are different, but I don't know why. But the creation of Army Aviation was very political and I believe the Air Force had and maybe still has a piece of the development and testing process. That may be why.
 
I recall reading years ago-forget where-that until 1936 or so, the practice was M-for Model-followed by the year of adoption-M1888 Rifle, M1892, M1896, M1903, M1911, M1917, M1928 pack, etc. After 1936, it was M and numerical designation. A for minor variation-M1911A1, e.g. E for Experimental.
 
SFAIK, it all started as M = Model. But it's not something that has been consistent over time.

"Rifle, Springfield, Model of 1903" or "Pistol, Colt, Model of 1911".

Then it was simplified with the Garand and the Carbine, as just M-1 for each. Dangfino.

I got to play with the M-16 half-track, back in 1955. Then with the dash dropped out, here came the M16 rifle.

I don't worry about it. :D

I always figured, "There's the right way, the wrong way and the Army way." It ain't right, it ain't wrong, it's just the way the Army does stuff. Shrug...
 
Model number makes sense. Then you have different items, like M1 Mine, helmet, tank, rifle whatever. Makes one wonder what happened to the missing models. The M14 Rifle was a superb arm, the M16 is servicable to say the least but what happend to the M15? Was a hunk of junk and scrapped fast?
 
The M15 rifle was mean to be the heavy barrel version of the M14 to serve as the squad automatic weapon-think BAR. It was officially adopted then cancelled and never produced.
 
And I'm not sure about aircraft.
Aircraft are designated according to the intended mission of the aircraft.
A= attack aircraft
B= bombers
C= cargo
E= electronic countermeasure
F= fighter
H= helicopter
O= observaton
P= patrol
R= reconnaisance
S= anti-submarine or special mission
T= trainer
U= utility
V= vertical/short take-off
X= experimental
Y= prototype

I think I remembered them all.:confused:

Descriptions of missions have changed over the years, but aircraft are still described this way.
 
Finally there is an alpha numeric designation. A letter followed by a number. These designate modifications to the thing. "A" means it's an official modification. E means the modification is experimental. The number following is how many modifications have been done.

Not always.

For instance, the AH-64 Apache helicopter. Variants include the AH-64A (basically the original version), AH-64B, AH-64-C, and the AH-64D. Using sequential letters rather than the "A#" system seems to be fairly common for airframes, and "experimental" and "prototype" designations are contained in the first part of the designation, i.e. for instance the prototype for the AH-64 was called the YAH-64A and it's competitor was the YAH-63A.
 
I always figured the military did it to mess with librarians or something.

Also there is now an M320 grenade launcher that is replacing the M203.
 
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