un traceable weapons

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captneil19

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What do you guys think of weapons that cannot be traced.even back to mfgg.,every part of the weapon was declared something wrong with it an it was supposed to be destroyed but wasn't.friends from different companies got together an built rifles an sell them on the black market or to friends.this has been going on for many years.my opinion is it depends on how bad you really want to bid your stuff from the gov. By the way they range fro $2500 on up no questions asked.
 
If you're suggesting that an illegal activity is happening, you need to report it to the appropriate LE. If they get caught and you did anything to help them in even the smallest way, you're are an accomplice.

We have zero tolerance for suggesting or condoning illegal activity on this forum.

Any post suggesting that the illegal activity is acceptable or encouraged will be deleted and the member reprimanded.

Otherwise, except for the serial numbered part, the receiver or trigger groups, there is no part of a gun that is traceable or would ever legally require it to be destroyed.

That requirement for being destroyed would only apply to fully automatic receivers and a few of their parts.

It is perfectly legal (under federal law, state laws may vary) for a person to manufacture their own firearms, from scratch, and no serial number is required. It can even be sold. It can NOT, however, be manufactured for the PURPOSE of being sold unless the person building it has the appropriate manufacturers license from the ATF.

If your friends are taking serial numbered receivers and deserializing them and reselling them as function guns without serial numbers, they are committing several federal felonies. They are not the type of person that I would call a friend and, frankly, I would judge you by the company that you keep.
 
Regardless of the Federal firearms laws it also sounds like they may be committing some other crimes as well. If they are labeling parts as unusable when those parts can be used and then diverting them from the scrap process it’s probably theft. I worked with a computer company once where some repair department employees ran a similar sounding scam and they ended up being prosecuted and forced to make restitution.
 
Uhh re-read the OP. He's not saying that his friends are parting out different guns. He's saying that people who know each other at different firearm companies may be 'friendly' with each other, and organize a way to assemble weapons that cannot be traced for their own financial benefit.

No where did I see the OP condone such behavior either, simply asking how we felt about such things happening. Which I can imagine, most legal gun owners would not be happy with such practices.
 
Sounds like BS to me. Only common weapon I can think of offhand that uses interchangeable parts from different manufacturers is an AR15. Since the OP talks about the government, I assume he's referring to M16's.

If guys from different companies (FN and Colt?) are stealing parts (why not just buy a cheap parts kit for a couple of hundred bucks?) then building and selling illegal M16's for $2,500, then they and the people that buy them are just stupid (3 people can keep a secret if 2 of them are dead) and it's only a matter of time until the ATF comes to visit.

If they are selling AR15's without serial numbers for $2,500, then their customers are just too stupid to know that they can build their own perfectly legally from an 80% receiver for about $2,000 less.
 
He's saying that people who know each other at different firearm companies may be 'friendly' with each other, and organize a way to assemble weapons that cannot be traced for their own financial benefit.
If they're in the business of manufacturing, and they're doing this, they're violating several laws.

Frankly, we've established that in prior posts and further speculation doesn't do us any good.
 
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