UK -- First guns, then hunting, and now ... fishing???

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Times 24.7.00
Anglers call for protection as protests mount
BY VALERIE ELLIOTT, COUNTRYSIDE EDITOR

MINISTERS have been urged to order police protection for fishing competitions because of the anti-angling campaign being waged by animal rights activists.

Angling groups, representing more than two million enthusiasts, are appealing to Kate Hoey, the Sports Minister, to help to save their sport from the threat of militants. Some leading figures in the angling world
have been subjected to personal threats and intimidation, but last night asked not to be named to prevent further attacks.

The angling lobby has been mobilised after discovering an Internet website instructing activists to disrupt angling competitions. They have also been incensed by new literature sent to schools telling children
that angling is cruel and urging them not to eat fish.

Ms Hoey is shortly to receive a report from the Angling Trades Association, which acts for all tackle manufacturers and retailers, on behalf of the sport setting out the problems for angling if MPs vote for
a hunting ban. The need for competitions to be fully policed and for police forces to share information about angling saboteurs are high among the priorities.

There is also concern about the security of events to mark next month's National Fishing Week and other promotional activities to encourage young people to take up the sport.

One angling source said: "We are absolutely certain if there is a ban on hunting, it will open a Pandora's box and we can see anti-everything else coming out of the woodwork."

A high-level meeting to discuss ways of countering the threat to the sport was held on Friday at the Countryside Alliance headquarters in London.

The group, which included representatives of the National Federation of Angling, the Salmon and Trout Association, and the Specialist Anglers Conservation Group decided to hit back by compiling its own pack for
schools and by setting up its own website.

Charles Jardine, director of the alliance's campaign for angling, said last night: "We are all worried about the direct action against the sport and are concerned these activists will step up their activities
and resort to more physical tactics to stop angling. The problem we have is that angling is an isolationist sport and people are often on their own on riverbanks."

Tony Blair has insisted he will not allow any threat to angling or shooting (sic) while he is Prime Minister. But Mr Jardine is sceptical about Labour's commitment. "The animal rights groups have an agenda and they
will push it for all their worth. We may have support from ministers now, but how tenacious is it when push comes to shove?"

The anti-angling activities are being co-ordinated by the Campaign for the Abolition of Angling (CAA), an American charity in South London, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA).

Both are known to have links with hunt saboteur groups, but the main animal welfare organisations calling for a ban on hunting - such as the League Against Cruel Sports - deny any involvement with the anti-angling
campaign. Max Gastone, for the CAA, says he believes angling will have disappeared within 20 years. He said last night he had thousands of supporters, and that if he could boost the numbers even further he was
confident the Government would support them. He admitted that the campaign involved going into schools and taking direct action to
disrupt competition.

"We will do everything we can to end this blood sport." Toni Vernelli, PETA's campaign co-ordinator, said that, when the public understood the cruelty of angling, they would join the movement to ban it. "Hooking is
bound to cause pain, and when fish are pulled out of the water they begin to suffocate to death."

She said they intended to step up their anti-angling campaign throughout the summer and admitted that she had been behind the Pisces pack for schools which even included a cartoon of a fish saying: "Would you like
to be hooked, dragged under water and held there for several minutes?"

Angling is the largest participatory sport, with up to six million adherents. The biggest group is of coarse anglers whose season started a few weeks ago. Coarse anglers compete in weekend matches which saboteurs
have attempted to halt. There are also 650,000 fly fishermen fishing for trout and salmon. A stretch on top-grade salmon rivers can fetch £1 million.[/quote]

Sound familiar??? I urge you to circulate this to any fishing groups/websites/friends you may know -- because it's the UK now (and Australia to a lesser extent), and then -- if they succeed -- you're next. And I don't think fishing is covered by the 2nd Amendment!

B
 
Carl cravenly crunched on the carrot, cruely cogitating on the horrendous pain and suffering that his now dead snack had undergone. Torn from its nurturing soil just as it was reaching the prime of life, its many rootlets brutaly ripped off, the very source of it's energy twisted from its top and coldly thrown into the trash.

We must go into the homes and schools and put a stop to this vicious vegetable vitiation.

"It's for the children" There must have been a resurgence in the popularity of lead wine decanters.

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Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
 
It's obvious that, not only has the U.K. gone stark barking mad, but that the loonies are running the asylum.

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Just when I think I've seen it all, another TFL'er straightens me out ... ;)

These people do appear to be certifiable. Check out their web sites:

Campaign for the Abolition of Angling - http://www.anti-angling.com/ , and, regarding their sabotage tactics, see especially http://www.anti-angling.com/sabbing.html

Now, I'm not advocating this, but I think it is quite logical that, eventually, this will lead to violence against these idiots.

And, if that nutcase web site isn't enough, check out the League Against Cruel Sports ( http://www.league.uk.com/ ), and our favorite nutcase standby, PETA ( http://www.peta-online.org/ ).

How I long for the days of that quaint saying (as applied to humans ...) 'live and let live'. Instead we have the brave new world where 'freedom' is just a function of majority rule, and with an assumption that no one cares enough to sabotage your freedom even if they are in the minority.

Unless government(s) take strong action against this kind of behavior, violence is inevitable.

Regards from AZ
 
Guys, you missed the biggest stupidity of all:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Campaign for the Abolition of Angling (CAA), an American charity in South London[/quote]

What the hell are these American idiots doing meddling in British fishing? Obviously they think it's a smaller, softer target before they take on American fishing, and that Americans will follow whatever Brits do.

Hell, why don't these British anglers just buy a decent holster and pack a small, lightweight 9mm on their trips to the ...... oh, yeah. Never mind.
 
These people are so concerned about the lives of fish that they've decided to target angling competitions, while thousands of boats roam the area bringing hundreds of fish on board are roaming the seas. This is like going after rapists in Hitler's Germany while millions of Jews are being tortured and killed.

Although I have to agree with them on the "catch and release" issue.
 
I like fishing!!! I like that I have to work to catch my dinner for the night when I go out, and if I am lucky maybe more than one night. :)

Can you believe these people????

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"DO NOT throw large stones in the water as there is the tiny risk of actually hitting a fish. Small pebbles also shouldn't be used as fish may confuse them with the ground bait anglers use to attract fish."[/quote]

They forgot to mention that they might hit (maybe even kill) a fish with their boat, or their paddle, while on the water!!

Oh wait that comes later, banning boats!

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I have a feeling that these environuts think: Why eat animals when you can ---- them.

Case in point: Some enviro loony was arrested in Brighton (?), England for fondling the genitals and masturbating a male dolphin that had come to feed from and watch the tourists on the pier a few years back (It was in the "weird happenings" column of my local paper's style section).

Break out the sheep jokes.
 
Say what??!! :eek:

A dolphin???

Geez. I'll never look at Flipper the same way again.

I'm going to hate myself for this...

No, I'm really going to hate myself...

Since the dolphin is:
a) At least as smart as a chimp, and
b) Rather at home in the water, ie., can get away from a land-bound human, and
c) Apparently didn't try to get away...

You gotta wonder which species has the fetish.

Could Flipper be the piscean version of Pee Wee Herman? :eek:

LawDog
 
I'm not kidding about this. . . .

Canned tuna just doesn't taste the same since they started sifting the dolphin out of it. . . .


Battler.
 
SAVE THE FISH!!

What a bunch of nutjobs. Too bad a certain group of just as idiotic politicians will take them seriously. I guess we're all supposed to eat tofu and bean sprouts. Screw that.
 
Will they then ban Billy Bass? :D

This really is crazy. 100 years from now our great great great grandkids will be eating fruit off the trees...that is if they don't ban that as well.
 
Well, crap....my post never went thru way-back-when. Must not have been THAT interesting. Oh well...

Nuke the Whales!

Mutants for Nukes! }0-p

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Ok I see the US version of this.

"Fishermen-women, should not be allowed to "own" Firearms as they are cruel and inhuman people, that like to kill and maim animals!!"

That isnt too far off!!!! Truely sad!!
 
LawDog! Pee Wee Herman has never done anything wrong - that was Paul Rubin!

Big difference. :p

CMOS ;)

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NRA? Good. Now join the GOA!

The NRA is our shield, the GOA will be our sword.
 
First there and then here. America itself is becoming the home of the fascists rather than home of the brave.

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Same thing is going to happen here. The animal rights people have it scheduled after they do in the hunters.

Free the lobsters in the Supermarket!!
 
Sad to say but I don't think these lunatics are confined to the UK.

BTW the dolphin story is in fact an urban legend loosely based on an incident in the North of England. There was a male dolphin who used to frequent the area around Cullercoats. One of his favourite tricks was to sneak up on divers, grab hold and take then for a ride. Unfortunately his technique for doing so was to use his clasper - effectively his genitalia. Even more unfortunately someone spotted one of his victims and phoned the police who, with the support of an animal charity, were stupid enough to attempt a prosecution. It failed, the judge threw it out for lack of evidence.

I pity the poor sod involved, because he was never able to live it down.

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