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Brian Pfleuger

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Forgive my ignorance if I am wrong but I believe that's what I have here.
A friend of mine cares for an elderly woman who has this and said elderly woman wondered if it has any value.

(Barrel looks weirdly disproportionate, it's not in real life)

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It looks like a reproduction of the 1849 Pocket Revolver. Uberti still shows it on their web site. But the 1849 Pocket was a .31 caliber. The one your friend has is .36 caliber, which would make it a short-barreled version of an 1851 Navy. Possibly a "Storekeeper's Model"?

https://www.uberti-usa.com/black-powder-revolvers/1849-pocket-revolvers

With a brass frame, it's a lower cost "reproduction" of a firearm that didn't exist, since Colt never made 1851s with brass frames. Back in the 1970s, that model probably sold for about $100 to $150. I suspect it's worth less today, in that condition. Although someone might be interested because of the short barrel.
 
I don't see any indication of who made it, probably ASM. Brass frame and obvious timing issues and what looks like a bent trigger guard. Unfortunately it doesn't have much value.
 
It is a "replica" of a nonexistent original.
Make an 1851 Navy out of brass and saw the barrel off and you have the "Sheriff's Model."

I think the "timing issue" may just be the hammer at half cock and the cylinder in mid-rotation.


A brand new one is $307 at Midway. This one is worth a good bit less even if I am right and the timing is ok.
 
Aquila Blanca said:
“1851 Navy. Possibly a "Storekeeper's Model"?
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The barrel says 1851 Sheriff's Model 5” (Sorry, thought I posted those pics)

Regarding the timing, I probably just turned the cylinder. The action works fine.
 
There's something wrong with your first two photos in the opening post -- they appear to have been proportionally distorted, making the gun (and barrel) look shorter than it apparently is. That said, the one in your photos doesn't have a stepped cylinder, so that rules out the Taylor's model in the first link in post #9. The second link is a possibility.
 
Ah yes, you’re right about the stepped cylinder.

It also has some fairly detailed (and very shallow) engraving all around the cylinder that the second one doesn’t have.

It seems to be a pretty unusual variant.
 
I took the liberty of copying the first two photos and stretching them horizontally by 25 %. I think they look a bit more proportional that way:

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Confession: reading this thread got me interested in buying an 1851 Navy clone and then getting a cartridge conversion cylinder for it. You can still buy molds to make .36 caliber heeled bullets, and you can buy the bullets pre-made. But by the time I added up the cost of the gun, the conversion cylinder, a batch of 500 bullets, and the cost of the special die needed to crimp .36 caliber heeled bullets, it was well over $1,000.

Never mind.
 
Aguila Blanca said:
Confession: reading this thread got me interested in buying an 1851 Navy clone and then getting a cartridge conversion cylinder for it. You can still buy molds to make .36 caliber heeled bullets, and you can buy the bullets pre-made. But by the time I added up the cost of the gun, the conversion cylinder, a batch of 500 bullets, and the cost of the special die needed to crimp .36 caliber heeled bullets, it was well over $1,000.

Never mind.
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Just get a Richards Mason. It takes .357 bullets.

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