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Esquire M Busterbury

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Cuba back in the day.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.
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Does the military's willingness to do these things as a pretext for war have any bearing on what's going on today? Also, was this before or after the Missile crisis?
 
No, but I don't think us bombing the golden mosque in Iraq to incite a civil war would be out of the question. If they're shooting at each other, they're shooting at us less.
 
"James Bamford is the former Washington DC investigative producer for ABC's World News Tonight with Peter Jennings"

Thanks anyway, but I think I'll skip anything he has to say.

John
 
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Interesting notion, I wouldn't be surprised if under orders that mosque in Iraq was blown up for such a reason. However I'm more inclined to say orders from groups like the CIA or someone from Congress may have triggered such transgressions if they prove to be true, unfortunately it's a tin-foil hat theory, there's no solid evidence. Then again, cover-up and secrecy is the CIA's specialty.


Epyon
 
U.S. Military wanted to provoke war...

America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans...
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It is far more likely that political leaders made the strategic decisions and military leaders only developed plans to execute the strategic decisions handed down to them.
 
So, some right wing, commie hating General, straight out of Dr. Strangelove came up with an absurd plan to depose Castro and lost his job because of it. Shows why our forefathers set up the government to be run by civilians and not the military.
 
Does the military's willingness to do these things as a pretext for war have any bearing on what's going on today? Also, was this before or after the Missile crisis?
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Why bother? Remember the US led "Bay of Pigs" invasion? They didn't need excuses back then. The threat of "communism" was enough.

It could not have happened after the Cuban Missile Crisis because part of the deal with the USSR was promises that the US would not attack Cuba. They would be limited to assassination attempts on Castro.
 
God I miss right wing, commie hating Generals
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What is scary is that we do need more of them. Less CYA yes men:barf: , and more Patton or MacArthur types. (they hated Commies too):D A general who is not afraid to say No Sir Mr. President, I Refuse. I know someone is going to take this as "oh great rogue generals with 100,000's of men running around". for once take it at face value and do not read into, i know that is hard for some people.:rolleyes:
 
No, but I don't think us bombing the golden mosque in Iraq to incite a civil war would be out of the question. If they're shooting at each other, they're shooting at us less.
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so, let me get this straight, because a lot of people tend to conveniently forget history... we basically arm Saddam with weapons (chemical weapons, no less) during Carter's admin to fight Iran, then in the 80's, we sell arms to Iran to fight Iraq. We then go in , and capture Saddam for having said weapons. I know, I know...he supposedly killed lots of his own people with these weapons....

and then again, there's the incident during Clinton's admin, when we "accidentally" bombed an aspirin plant in somalia... oops...

is it just me, or does our track record send mixed messages? or is it all "just business"?
 
is it just me, or does our track record send mixed messages? or is it all "just business"?
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Neither. All it means is that times change because our allies can change based on who takes over power at any given point in time.
We (the US) do what we can given the circumstances of the moment.

That's why it's so easy to be armchair generals, especially LIBERAL armchair generals, because you can pick and choose a situation and transplant it to another time all the while comparing what was done to today.
It's not confusing at all except for those people who can't seem to get a handle on the reality of world politics, or for those who do understand world politics but choose to play "I would'a; you should'a" games for purely political gain.

Carter
 
This might have been a good thread for thehistorychannel.com or theconspiricychannel.com, but not for thefiringline.com.
 
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