Two recent purchases- The good, and not so good

IdahoG36

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I purchased two new 9mm pistols recently, and one has become my new favorite, while the other had issues right out of the box.

First is a Walther PPQ M2 Navy SD 9mm. I added a set of Meprolight night sights and a Talon rubberized grip. This pistol is absolutely amazing! It fits my hand perfectly and is very accurate. I shot 300 rounds through it the first time out at the range, and it was 100% reliable. Prior to purchasing the PPQ, my Hk VP9 was my go to 9mm pistol. I actually prefer the Walther slightly more now.

My second purchase was a new Magnum Research MR9. It is a Walther P99 clone, with the frame resembling the PPQ more than the P99. The frame is made by Walther, and the slide and barrel is made here in the US by Magnum Research. I picked it up at my local Cabela's for $375, which was a good deal. While I like the feel of the MR9, the performance was severely lacking and left me disappointed.

Right of the bat, the MR9 was disassembled, inspected, cleaned, and lubed. I did notice that there was a slight ding in the feedramp of the barrel. Running my fingernail across it, I could feel a slight depression there. I didn't think much of it at the time, and figured I'd see how it performed at the range.

First magazine was an utter failure. Every 1-3 rounds was a FTF. The mouth of the casing was catching the ding in the feedramp and causing the round to stay facing upwards, instead of feeding into the chamber. This caused the gun to jam. The slide had to be locked back, and the round that failed to feed had to be removed.

So after two magazines worth of this, I was fed up with the MR9. I know that new pistols have a break in period, but this problem wasn't going to correct itself by shooting the gun. I still had 6 fully loaded magazines though, and rather than remove all of those rounds and load them into my PPQ magazines, I decided to run a little experiment.:D

At home, I had these two pistols disassembled side by side, and the internals are almost identical, and the frame/slide dimensions are identical. I ended up mounting the PPQ slide on the MR9 frame, and vice versa, and both functioned properly when dry firing, locking the slide back, etc. While at the range, I put my PPQ slide assembly on the MR9 frame and shot all 6 magazines, 90 rounds total, without issue. It functioned 100%.

I took the MR9 barrel and polished the feedramp until it is glass smooth and looks like a mirror. I am going to take it back to the range in the next couple of days and see if that corrected the issue. I believe that it will.

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That sucks hope the polish job took care of the issue. If not send it in to MR and let them fix it.

How was the trigger on the MR?
 
The trigger is excellent. It is the same as the AS trigger of the Walther P99. It has a double action trigger pull of 8lbs if is it decocked, or AS mode- a single action trigger pull with the same length of pull as double action. When in AS, the trigger can also be pulled back slightly and locked back for a nice short single action pull. The slide mounted decocker can instantly revert the gun back to the 8lb double action mode when pressed.

Description from a Walther P99 manual. This may explain it more clearly than I did haha:D

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Would be a excellent deal at that price if it ran...lol

Good luck with it please report back after your next range session.
 
I will do that. I'm 99% sure that the issue will be resolved. I chambered some fmj and jhp ammo as a test run and it chambered flawlessly every time now after polishing the feed ramp. If it still has issues, I will contact MR and have them look at it.
 
if you buy a p99 you can complete the trifecta of identical guns by 3 different manufacturers. then there's also the SW99 you can get. if you play video games you can get the Novint Falcon and the pistol grip, which is also modeled on the P99. that way you can go full retard on this design. :)

good luck on the range session. sounds like the feed ramp was pretty screwed up and you've probably solved the issue.
 
Thanks for the write up. Too bad you didn't get the PPQ M1. It shares the same mags with the PPQ M1.

The PPQ looks good with a TB.
 
I was finally able to take the MR9 back to the range. After polishing the feedramp to a mirror finish, the MR9 shot 200 flawless rounds of Fiocchi 115gr fmj.
I was very happy that the problem was easily fixed.
 
So the problem was that the new owner did not check out the finish of the gun that he selected prior to trying to use it.
 
So the problem was that the new owner did not check out the finish of the gun that he selected prior to trying to use it.


Yeah....if you believe the possible customer should perform a major factory QC check at the counter. A dimpled/flawed feed ramp should have been caught at the factory.
Just me $0.02.
 
So the problem was that the new owner did not check out the finish of the gun that he selected prior to trying to use it.

Ummm, no. Whenever I purchase a new firearm, it is detailed stripped, inspected, cleaned, and lubricated before it is ever taken to the range. I noticed the ding in the feedramp immediately, but it was small and I was not able to feel much of a ridge, so I figured that I would see how it performed.

Thank you for your condescending reply though. It is much appreciated.:D
 
So the problem was that the new owner did not check out the finish of the gun that he selected prior to trying to use it.

Most gun buyers don't feel it necessary to fully inspect their factory new gun for minor imperfections before using. Any issue that does crop up gets dealt with afterward.
 
Afterward it is often too late and it is much easier to polish feed ramps and get things worked out before you go to the range.
 
Definitely. I inspected the feedramp while cleaning the MR9 today, and it is still mirror smooth.

The initial defect looked like a machining error of sorts. It was small, and I could barely feel a lip when dragging my fingernail across it. That was enough to catch the edge of the case mouth and slow it down just enough to cause the FTF issue.

Today, I performed slow fire, rapid fire, double taps, all without issue. So I do believe the issue is corrected. I shot the same ammo as last time as well, to verify that the issue wasn't ammo related. I have shot over 1000 rounds of Fiocchi 115gr fmj through my other 9mm pistols, and it is clean, reliable ammo. It is also loaded to CIP standards, and is a little hotter than WWB, Remington, or Federal range ammo.
 
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