This happened in my hometown. Here is story:
http://www.thetimesherald.com/artic...10/Gun-advocates-claim-police-violated-rights
A link to the audio of the stop is included in the story. Please listen to it before commenting.
I'd rather this thread not be about OC vs CC (this is L&CR not T&T) but rather the rights prospective of this...
Some background for those not up to spec on every State's laws (I know I'm not):
MI is an OC state.
MI is NOT a stop-and-ID state (as is alluded to by the carriers).
Case law says that OCing is not reasonable suspicion.
What does everyone think of the "conversation" between the citizens and officers? Has anyone encountered anything similar? What about the questions the citizens asked and the answers given to him by the deputy? The guys stopped were obviously very aware of their rights and what to say to get the answers they wanted.
Also no bashing of LEO's please. This is obviously a mildly isolated incident and the Marysville PD is held in very high regard in MI.
http://www.thetimesherald.com/artic...10/Gun-advocates-claim-police-violated-rights
A link to the audio of the stop is included in the story. Please listen to it before commenting.
I'd rather this thread not be about OC vs CC (this is L&CR not T&T) but rather the rights prospective of this...
Some background for those not up to spec on every State's laws (I know I'm not):
MI is an OC state.
MI is NOT a stop-and-ID state (as is alluded to by the carriers).
Case law says that OCing is not reasonable suspicion.
What does everyone think of the "conversation" between the citizens and officers? Has anyone encountered anything similar? What about the questions the citizens asked and the answers given to him by the deputy? The guys stopped were obviously very aware of their rights and what to say to get the answers they wanted.
Also no bashing of LEO's please. This is obviously a mildly isolated incident and the Marysville PD is held in very high regard in MI.