Two new acquisitions: Opinion's please?
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Sir William
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They are pretty. They didn't quite cath on with LEOs. They develop a failure to reset the trigger. I still have one myself in said condition. Pull the trigger until doomsday and nothing happens. This is a well known and common defect in these Rugers. The GP-100 was the solution. Many LEOs and shooters still remember and won't buy Rugers to this day. When they work, they are a bit gritty and rough in their actions. They are becoming collectibles. You seem to have two good examples. Did they include boxes and papers?
On that DA trigger problem SW mentioned...
I thought the solution was to release the trigger to allow it to reset. LAPD rejected the Ruger b/c it had too many parts in the ejector rod.
BTW, nice pair of Rugers. I'd set the factory grips aside for fingerless Pachmayrs. I've always hated Ruger grips but liked their guns.
I thought the solution was to release the trigger to allow it to reset. LAPD rejected the Ruger b/c it had too many parts in the ejector rod.
BTW, nice pair of Rugers. I'd set the factory grips aside for fingerless Pachmayrs. I've always hated Ruger grips but liked their guns.
History shows "Six-Series" revolvers to be trouble-free!
I have studied the history of the Ruger "Six Series" revolvers for quite along time! These revolvers have been proven to be reliable in over a million of them being produced, since they were introduced in the early 1970's!
Although, I don't doubt, that maybe your Security-Six and possibly a few other(Leo)guns, could have experienced problems(For some unknown reason?)as a whole, this was not a problem inherent in these revolvers! To support this statement, the following excerpt is from "THE RUGER Double Action REVOLVERS A Shop Manual Vol. I(By: Jerry Kuhnhausen)the "Famous" gunsmith:
"To date, Sturm, Ruger & Co. has put out very little factory service, repair,and/or gunsmithing information on the Six-Series revolvers. The factory has released a few very brief information sheets containing mostly basic and otherwise available specifications on headspace, safe trigger pull weights, firing pin protrusion, etc. This data was intended primarily for use by law enforcement agency armorers. The overall lack of detailed service information on these revolvers is probably attributable to the following: (1) the Ruger company doesn't have a network of factory authorized field repair service stations, preferring, instead, to maintain an in-factory service department; and(2) the fact that not much goes wrong with Six-Series revolvers".
"These sturdy revolvers use a minimum number of internal parts, most of which are fairly large. Once a Six-Series part has been correctly fit or adjusted, it tends to stay that way".
If the aforementioned problem had been "Common and well known" there would have been many of those(Over one million, Six-Series gun owners, with their complaints duly noted on record!)and, with an over-burdened Ruger service dept(Let alone, much screaming, having been done about these revolvers, on this very forum(And others!))! The fact is, that Ruger's Six-Series revolvers, have historically, proven to have been a "Resounding" success(EXCEPT for Bill Ruger's complaint, that he probably never made a dime on these revolvers(In view of the problems his company had in producing them(However, Bill did say that overall, all of his Six-Series revolvers, turned out to be good!)!
Lastly, there has been reports from various LEO Departments, where these Six-Series revolvers were all sadly missed(And, were much preferred to the newly issued, Gp100's)!
I have studied the history of the Ruger "Six Series" revolvers for quite along time! These revolvers have been proven to be reliable in over a million of them being produced, since they were introduced in the early 1970's!
Although, I don't doubt, that maybe your Security-Six and possibly a few other(Leo)guns, could have experienced problems(For some unknown reason?)as a whole, this was not a problem inherent in these revolvers! To support this statement, the following excerpt is from "THE RUGER Double Action REVOLVERS A Shop Manual Vol. I(By: Jerry Kuhnhausen)the "Famous" gunsmith:
"To date, Sturm, Ruger & Co. has put out very little factory service, repair,and/or gunsmithing information on the Six-Series revolvers. The factory has released a few very brief information sheets containing mostly basic and otherwise available specifications on headspace, safe trigger pull weights, firing pin protrusion, etc. This data was intended primarily for use by law enforcement agency armorers. The overall lack of detailed service information on these revolvers is probably attributable to the following: (1) the Ruger company doesn't have a network of factory authorized field repair service stations, preferring, instead, to maintain an in-factory service department; and(2) the fact that not much goes wrong with Six-Series revolvers".
"These sturdy revolvers use a minimum number of internal parts, most of which are fairly large. Once a Six-Series part has been correctly fit or adjusted, it tends to stay that way".
If the aforementioned problem had been "Common and well known" there would have been many of those(Over one million, Six-Series gun owners, with their complaints duly noted on record!)and, with an over-burdened Ruger service dept(Let alone, much screaming, having been done about these revolvers, on this very forum(And others!))! The fact is, that Ruger's Six-Series revolvers, have historically, proven to have been a "Resounding" success(EXCEPT for Bill Ruger's complaint, that he probably never made a dime on these revolvers(In view of the problems his company had in producing them(However, Bill did say that overall, all of his Six-Series revolvers, turned out to be good!)!
Lastly, there has been reports from various LEO Departments, where these Six-Series revolvers were all sadly missed(And, were much preferred to the newly issued, Gp100's)!
The Ruger "Six" series guns are good, decent guns for the money. But let's not get hasty about the trigger reset problem not existing.
It took Ruger years to grudgingly admit that their early series Mini-14 rifles were inherently inaccurate. They still won't admit that the design is what allows the barrel to heat up and the POI to wander.
I suspect that factory "Depot" service is more a case of keeping the bad news contained than anything else.
It took Ruger years to grudgingly admit that their early series Mini-14 rifles were inherently inaccurate. They still won't admit that the design is what allows the barrel to heat up and the POI to wander.
I suspect that factory "Depot" service is more a case of keeping the bad news contained than anything else.
Sir William
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The depot is somewhat for that purpose. I had 44-40 Ruger Vaqueros. Three were pretty well POA/POI spot on. Two were terribly off. I measured them and slugged the barrels, checked each individual chamber and discovered a motley set of measurements. Ruger pulled a fast one and used 44 Magnum barrels on 44-40 Vaqueros. Ruger took the revolvers back and returned them in top form. New barrels. Ruger didn't make a public announcement concerning the defective firing pins in their new Ruger Vaqueros either. In another area of safety, their first MKIII 22s could be discharged if a sharp blow hit the loaded chamber indicator. Low profile is the Ruger way. I have owned several Rugers and often enjoyed their products. I simply think the GP-100 is a far superior product. Collectibility is IIRC, boa2s interest. In that area, he has two Ruger collectible revolvers. A pair like that is a interesting acquisition for a collection. Colts, S&Ws and Rugers, boa2 has some fine weapons accumulated.
I would say that there are many owner's of both the "Six Series" and the GP100 revolvers, that will favor one or the other of these over the other gun! Also, I think that it is "Incorrect" to state that the GP100 is "Far superior" to the "Six Series"! Superior at what? Certainly, not at everything! The "Six series" are less bulky, easier to handle, has a superior finish(On average)to the GP100, easier to conceal, almost as strong, lighter in weight, has a more "Classic" design", and is prettiier to look at(IMHO)! 
On the other hand, the GP100 is built on a larger frame(With more meat under the barrel lug)and has the frontal crane lock, and definately, a more comfortable rubber grip design(Although somewhat "Ugly"!)and is heavier, to assist in better recoil control! Otherwise, there are some other minor upgrades that were "Evolutional" improvements over the "Six Series" revolvers.
I think that it would be more correct to state, that although there were some significant improvements made in the GP100 over the earlier "Six-Series" revolvers, there were some that went towards the "Negative direction(Like the ugly rubber grips, the wobbly ejector rod, the bulkiness, etc.)! :barf:
The bottom line is, that both, the GP100 and the "Six Series" revolvers are great guns! Each one of these guns, have advantages and disadvantages over the other one! But, neither of these revolvers are "Far Superior" to the other one(Overall)! The "Preference" for one over the other, will be mostly a "Subjective" choice(Based upon, variable factors, such as looks, size, bulkiness, recoil control, shootability, whatever?)! Neither of these guns have a history of being a "Bad" gun! Just pick the one that pleases you and you will be getting a good gun, regardless of your choice!
On the other hand, the GP100 is built on a larger frame(With more meat under the barrel lug)and has the frontal crane lock, and definately, a more comfortable rubber grip design(Although somewhat "Ugly"!)and is heavier, to assist in better recoil control! Otherwise, there are some other minor upgrades that were "Evolutional" improvements over the "Six Series" revolvers.
I think that it would be more correct to state, that although there were some significant improvements made in the GP100 over the earlier "Six-Series" revolvers, there were some that went towards the "Negative direction(Like the ugly rubber grips, the wobbly ejector rod, the bulkiness, etc.)! :barf:
The bottom line is, that both, the GP100 and the "Six Series" revolvers are great guns! Each one of these guns, have advantages and disadvantages over the other one! But, neither of these revolvers are "Far Superior" to the other one(Overall)! The "Preference" for one over the other, will be mostly a "Subjective" choice(Based upon, variable factors, such as looks, size, bulkiness, recoil control, shootability, whatever?)! Neither of these guns have a history of being a "Bad" gun! Just pick the one that pleases you and you will be getting a good gun, regardless of your choice!
Sir William
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Well said. I still believe a 3" DAO GP-100 357 Magnum with fixed sights is a good combat revolver. The modular construction is superior to the older 6-series in manufacture.
Modular construction superior on GP100?
Sir William:
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, by saying the the modular construction on the GP100, is superior to the earlier Six-Series revolvers? I say this, in view of the fact that the Six-Series revolvers were also of modular construction!
Sir William:
I'm not sure exactly what you mean, by saying the the modular construction on the GP100, is superior to the earlier Six-Series revolvers? I say this, in view of the fact that the Six-Series revolvers were also of modular construction!
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