Tubular handgun bullets
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Crow Hunter
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I think you are going to have to be more specific.
A tube is a cylinder, usually connected to itself like a doughnut. Bullets & cartridge casings are cylindrical.
What made this different?
Was it like a "normal" bullet with 2 "pointy ends" like a pill?
Was it shaped like a 55gal drum (wad cutter)?
I have never heard of a doughnut shaped bullet.
If it was doughnut shaped it probably was for cops.....
Sorry.
A tube is a cylinder, usually connected to itself like a doughnut. Bullets & cartridge casings are cylindrical.
What made this different?
Was it like a "normal" bullet with 2 "pointy ends" like a pill?
Was it shaped like a 55gal drum (wad cutter)?
I have never heard of a doughnut shaped bullet.
If it was doughnut shaped it probably was for cops.....
Sorry.
Geco BAT was one of them.
Ring Airfoil Projectile [RAP] is the proper term .Used by the Gov't in the shamefull Waco incident. Considered an AP round now.
Shape is basically a section of tubing .It has a polymer plug on the back end which comes off when fired . Very good for deflating tires .
Ring Airfoil Projectile [RAP] is the proper term .Used by the Gov't in the shamefull Waco incident. Considered an AP round now.
Shape is basically a section of tubing .It has a polymer plug on the back end which comes off when fired . Very good for deflating tires .
Strange you should ask OP, as I thought of this just the other day...I was unsuccessful in finding the 'hollow cylindrical' bullets doing a net search...
I distinctly remember the articles touting them back in the late 80's, early 90's...
They were gas checked, and 'allegedly' flew well after the gas check fell off...
I distinctly remember the articles touting them back in the late 80's, early 90's...
They were gas checked, and 'allegedly' flew well after the gas check fell off...
PMC marketed them for awhile. Here you go, with pics:
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/10123...e-cartridges/pmc-38-spl-tube-bullet-cartridge
That's ridiculous. If you knew anything about LE, you'd realize we wouldn't touch them unless they were creme or jelly filled.
http://www.gunauction.com/buy/10123...e-cartridges/pmc-38-spl-tube-bullet-cartridge
Crow Hunter said:
That's ridiculous. If you knew anything about LE, you'd realize we wouldn't touch them unless they were creme or jelly filled.
Just looked, and neither of those is what I am referring to...
What I remember was a .358" cylinder with about a .20" hole top to bottom...Copper hollow cylinder would be a better description...
Saw pics of targets with holes that looked like wad cutters had punched them, with the 'center' circles set next to the holes...
Superhouse 15
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Sounds like the old PMC Ultra mag.
Crow Hunter
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Cool.
I have never even heard of one of these.
So does it use like a "pusher" base to drive it down the barrel that subsequently falls off?
I have never even heard of one of these.
So does it use like a "pusher" base to drive it down the barrel that subsequently falls off?
Shadi Khalil
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I still don't get it... Looks like a .38 special JHP with a nice big cavity. So, what am I looking at here?
A while back, on one of the auction sites, they were asking ( and received ) six dollars a piece for them, yes a single round. I think I will keep my unopened box for my heirs, along with my unopened box of 45 ACP Black Talon almost full box of Winchester 38 Special Multi 'Ball, police use only ammo. Just never got around to shooting them. BTW, these were trouted as the ideal law enforcement use. High velocity but it falls away very fast, no, or little chance of ricochets. however no one else thought so and they failed in the marketplace. I believe that were first introduced in France for that reason.
, along with my unopened box of 45 ACP Black Talon almost full box of Winchester 38 Special Multi 'Ball, police use only ammo. Just never got around to shooting them. BTW, these were trouted as the ideal law enforcement use. High velocity but it falls away very fast, no, or little chance of ricochets. however no one else thought so and they failed in the marketplace. I believe that were first introduced in France for that reason.
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Shadi Khalil
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Ok, now I get it. Thanks, bob.
It's not bullet proof tires !
Originally 'spike strips' were just sharpened rods .But that would only slowly deflate tires, as the hole would tend to close up.. Now they use sharpened tubes which punched a large hole for faster deflating .Some of the spike strips are designed so that the tube breaks off , remaining in the tire .
Originally 'spike strips' were just sharpened rods .But that would only slowly deflate tires, as the hole would tend to close up.. Now they use sharpened tubes which punched a large hole for faster deflating .Some of the spike strips are designed so that the tube breaks off , remaining in the tire .
The Geco BAT was a very cool design. I remember them and the P7 being around at the same time period. The bullet had a huge HP and then a hole that went all the way through. A little plastic cap at the tip. After it cleared the barrel, the tip came off. It was made out of a bronze/brass metal which ended up getting it classed as AP... and then I never ended up getting any to put in my P7! But I do remember several magazine articles and tests where it sure looked like a good all around load that could defeat many different types of targets with great tactical penetration when you needed it.
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johnwilliamson062
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Even if machined, I can't imagine a reloader couldn't make some of these cheaper than $6 a round.
saltydog452
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Faded memory
But, if I remember right, and you think that the gun rags were the Gospel, the objective was to create a surgically non-repairable hole. The Ring bulllit was effective at doing so.
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But, if I remember right, and you think that the gun rags were the Gospel, the objective was to create a surgically non-repairable hole. The Ring bulllit was effective at doing so.
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