had 454 raging bull 2 years,8-3/8,with burris scope, taurus mount,shoots 1 inch at 50 yards from sand bags with winchester 260 partition gold, I own several rifles that want group like that.I have shot almost every ammo that is available and the groups open up to 2 to 3 inches, winchester did their homework on this one,and bullet performance is awesome. Recoil is about the same as my s&w 44's that are not ported, and they did do their homework as well with the grips. Not going to put ruger down, I have 5 ruger rifles, and have always said they build as good of a gun as you can buy, handgun or rifle, but they fell on their but with the 454 redhawk, not ported, and grips that don't help with the recoil. I have a buddy that bought a redhawk and told me it was too much for him. I shot it last week with full house loads, it WILL GET ON YOUR HAND. I think I shot 80 rounds one day with the bull, don't know if I could stand 10 with the redhawk.