Trying to learn more about C and R and ammo
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the rifleer
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K31 still has ammo available and there is commercial stuff on the market that is about the same price as normal centerfire ammo.
Ah, you have fine taste sir Mayo. Go get a K31. That straight pull is downright addictive. Problem is, they multiply like rabbits. Over a 2 week span my K31 spawned 2 more k31s and a k11. You've been warned.
Like zbones said, 54r is the easiest to find & cheapest round in town. I'd vote for the M38 carbine Mosin. They're obnoxiously loud and spit a big fireball with each trigger pull. Tons of fun.
The Garand, M1 carbine, and SKS are a bit pricier, but you really should get your hands on one.
Like zbones said, 54r is the easiest to find & cheapest round in town. I'd vote for the M38 carbine Mosin. They're obnoxiously loud and spit a big fireball with each trigger pull. Tons of fun.
The Garand, M1 carbine, and SKS are a bit pricier, but you really should get your hands on one.
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kilimanjaro
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Don't fret about the ammo. Prvi Partizan and Fiocchi make ammo for just about anything. Do get a reloading setup and you can recycle your brass forever. The K31 surplus ammo is outstanding, clean, but Berdan primed.
I just picked up a nice K31 at the pawn shop, ordered some Prvi ammo, I'll shoot it up and have 500 cases fire-formed to the rifle chamber to reload for a long, long time. The Swedish 6.5mm is at most shops. The 7.62x64R is either the cheap non-reloadable surplus or you can get the Sellier & Belloit or Prvi commercial stuff and reload it.
I just picked up a nice K31 at the pawn shop, ordered some Prvi ammo, I'll shoot it up and have 500 cases fire-formed to the rifle chamber to reload for a long, long time. The Swedish 6.5mm is at most shops. The 7.62x64R is either the cheap non-reloadable surplus or you can get the Sellier & Belloit or Prvi commercial stuff and reload it.
Ammo for most is not a problem, but most now (except for the 54 Russian) is factory and not surplus. Even most of the 8mm is gone.
The K-31 is an awsome rifle..why anyone would pay $200 for a Mosin (and I own four of them) when you can still find a K-31 for about $300 is beyond me.
The K-31 is head and shoulders above even many modern rifles in terms of quality, and accuracy. Interestingly enough, the GP-11 surplus, while not cheap, is AMAZINGLY accurate for surplus ammo. I've been unable to handload anything that performs better- and that's VERY odd for factory ammo of any kind, let alone surplus.
Not cheap at $.50/round- but you didn't say "cheap"- just available. It is now, but seems to be getting scarce.
The K-31 is an awsome rifle..why anyone would pay $200 for a Mosin (and I own four of them) when you can still find a K-31 for about $300 is beyond me.
The K-31 is head and shoulders above even many modern rifles in terms of quality, and accuracy. Interestingly enough, the GP-11 surplus, while not cheap, is AMAZINGLY accurate for surplus ammo. I've been unable to handload anything that performs better- and that's VERY odd for factory ammo of any kind, let alone surplus.
Not cheap at $.50/round- but you didn't say "cheap"- just available. It is now, but seems to be getting scarce.
just go to big five, they have sales on mosins a lot. can get for 98 dollars $,
also you normally get sling, ammo pouches, cleaning kit, and gaping tool
if you decide on a mosin, look down the barrel for pitting, make sure numbers match, check out the bolt and make sure it dosnt stick
if you find one you like clean the cosmoline out, by either heating up gun or gun cleaning solvents (hopps ect)
after clean take for a shoot and see what its quirks are. if possible buy the front end adjustment tool to adjust sights if not zeroed (they rarely are)
also you normally get sling, ammo pouches, cleaning kit, and gaping tool
if you decide on a mosin, look down the barrel for pitting, make sure numbers match, check out the bolt and make sure it dosnt stick
if you find one you like clean the cosmoline out, by either heating up gun or gun cleaning solvents (hopps ect)
after clean take for a shoot and see what its quirks are. if possible buy the front end adjustment tool to adjust sights if not zeroed (they rarely are)
Mosin Nagant....7.62x54r....I have 2 of the original battle rifles, two of M44 carbines, 1 M38 carbine and 1 Model 91/30...they all use the same ammo and at the saxet you can get cans of 440 rounds for about 90 bucks.....haven't had a misfire or dud from any of the ammo I have bought and put through them....
leadchucker
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Guns that I can't shoot affordably don't interest me at all. Availability and cost of ammo is what keeps me away from a lot of good C&R guns. I like the Mosins for that reason. I'm sure that the supply of cheap surplus 7.62x54r will eventually dry up too though.
carguychris
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Can't beat .22LR.
Keep in mind that C&R does not necessarily equal milsurp!. There are literally dozens- if not hundreds- of types of 50+ year old vintage .22's out there. My favorite "shooter" C&R rifle is an early-model Winchester Model 69. I've been considering picking up a Model 75, which is the heavy-barrel competition version of the same basic rifle; it takes the same magazines, so I already have spares.
If you favor military rifles, there are many .22LR trainer versions of "real" milsurp rifles out there, although some are quite rare and consequently may run expensive.