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A Stratford mother is collecting Silly String to send to her son and other troops in Iraq. They sometimes use the substance, which squirts out in a stream about 10 to 12 feet long, to detect wires connected to booby traps.

Donations of Silly String or similar products and money to defray costs are sought.

Checks made out to Marcelle Shriver can be sent to St. Luke's Church, 55 Warwick Rd., Stratford, N.J. 08084.
 
hope the pentagon and White House get word of this as I've heard Phoney Snow and Rummy both say many times, " our troops will get whatever they need
 
The military is reluctant to talk about the use of Silly String, saying that discussing specific tactics will tip off insurgents.
It seems to me that if this product is important to the soldiers well-being... the supply will be ensured by the right people...

Send them sweet cakes,
and cookies make,
and Slinky springs and happy things...
like party string.
;)

Keep your heads down and thank you for your service...
 
Military Logisitcs in a foriegn country is no fun. You cant just run down to the hardware store and get stuff off the shelf. You can purchase stuff on a goverment purchase card for under $2500.00 anything over that has to be contracted. You dont find a lot of places where you can use the government purchase card in armpits of the world. Cash is the preffered meduim of choice. Over $2500.00 single purchase means that it has to be approved by a contracting officer. That contracting officer has to follow federal purchase regulations. Sometimes the stuff that is deemed practical at the "where the rubber meets the road level" is deemed imparctical at the echelons above reality.

Not to mention that most units have a budget to spend for certain classes of supply. If silly string was given a NSN and is in the fedlog system it could be ordered...lol.

Besides silly sting violates the first rule of the echelons above reality, is that if it is logical you dont need it. We are going to send you each a pair of artic boots but no silly sting.
 
Kerry was not the first person to make that remark...lol

"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." :eek:
 
old 12 gauge,

Yeah...like they really NEED those stupid, tragic "Rules of Engagement."

But I do hope they get their Silly String!

-- John D.
 
Eghad
Besides, silly string violates the first rule of the echelons above reality, is that if it is logical, you dont need it. We are going to send you each a pair of Arctic boots, but no silly string.
LOL :D

Do we have a new acronym in E A R?

As in the listening... e a r ?

Echelons Above Reality... :D :D

I really like that... very descriptive... eloquent, even. ;)
 
And John Kerry said people in the military were stupid.
Well, he didn't actually "say" that... but he did insinuate it... :rolleyes:

When the Israeli F-16 pilots were told it would take months to bring in the very expensive and specialized rearview mirrors for their airplane canopies...

...They went to the local car parts store and bought automotive rear view mirrors and had their Flight Engineers "jerry rig" an installation... of several mirrors in each aircraft...

Voila!

It worked so well... they didn't even order the fancy US Air Force versions...


Eghad used a neat phrase (new to me) on another thread...

Echelons Above Reality... E A R


Reem JK's nose with a rubber hose... :p :p
 
I'm serious about the echelons above reality....lol

I have done most of my career in the military at the Battalion and Company level and have avoided the flagpole units. Except for a stint at a school type unit where I was an NCOES instructor and Ops NCO. My last assignment was as a Spt Opns NCO at a Battalion where we dealt with all the classes of supply.

In the Army something has to be authorized by a MTOE, TDA or CTA for you to order it. You just cant order stuff on a whim. Then you have to contend with categories like expendable, durable and non-expendable. Then your unit or activity has to have an account assigned to it. Without that account you cant order jack squat or you have to have somebody else order it for you with their account.

The only exception to this rule is if some clerk responsible for entering the order mistypes your unit code in accidentally by one letter you receive amazing things. One night I was working past 1600 when this big tractor trailer pulls up. I go out to meet the driver who has the humongous crates. I take the bill of lading and papers. its a crapload of the new M16A2 rifles made by FN. This would be good if the unit wasn't a TDA unit which was not authorized to our unit, I wanted to cry like a girly baby. Now I have several hundred rifles it is late in the evening and they have to be secured. All because some clerk mistyped the unit code by one alpha character. I guess the little weenie in the cubicle who says no must have been sick or on leave that week.

We had a forward support element in Northern Afghanistan that our unit provided support to. Since I was the Spt Ops Section NCO I was made the official/unofficial project manager for this area. Soldiers have to eat right?
That means that they will need some hot meals. Which meant that they will need to cook. Getting them the rations is no problem as we had limited cold storage space and rations were on the push instead of pull system. Now the problem is pots n pans n utensils to cook with. The guys were able to procure a stove from a local merchant and get it up and running.

Easy right? lolol Keep in mind we have to order this stuff from the states. Filling out the requisitions is easy cheesey. However, when it hits the real world back in the states some guy is saying hey your unit don't do any cooking so your unit isn't authorized this stuff. First brush of reality with bureaucrats in small cubicles. To shorten the story the KBR guys had the excess stuff so we made a backdoor deal with them to get the stuff and then replace it. Then I had to make a trip to talk with the DSA Rep so he could call his pard back in the states to bypass the bureaucrats and get the requisitions filled to pay back KBR.

Which leads me to the conclusion that in the logistical echelons above reality (btw that phrase came from a mentor so I deserve no credit) that the folks have no clue as to what is going on in the war areas. They just pull the reg and authorizations from the shelf and say hey you are not authorized this stuff. The fact that you are in a war zone has no bearing on the issue. Thank God for the DSA and Army Log reps on the ground.

So while it sounds practical to order silly string through the DoD supply system, some desk bound weenie at the echelon above reality is sure to come up with a reason as to why it cant be ordered or no funding has been approved. God preserve us from the beancounters also. Just remember that it is easier to get forgiveness than permission. :D if I had a dollar for every time I promised to get permission first and said the words till next time under my breath I would be a rich man.
 
Officer's manual

British Naval Jr. Officers manual. in the 1700's



"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear watching at all times."

Kerry couldn't even get the quote right.
 
Ain't Bureaucracy wonderfull....

During Desert Storm my Cousins son, a Jarhead in the sandbox, wrote home for Unlubricated Condoms and Pantyhose! The condoms for their weapons and the pantyhose to keep sand out of the radios.

She dutifully went to the local mart and bought a pile of condoms and pantyhose, and in talking with the clerk mentioned she was sending the stuff to her son who was in the Marines....got some funny looks from that one!:D
 
Pantyhose are also wonderful for keeping your spit shined shoes looking great for inspection. I learned this trick as a very young lad from an Air Force E-9.
I continued to use pantyhose to keep those spit shines looking nice. My mother and sisters would cut the legs out of the used pantyhose to give to me for that.
Alas I grew older and got married, I had inspection one morning and had a smudged on my shoe. I stopped by a local store and bought a pair of pantyhose to clean that smudge up and have my shoes in tip top shape.

Fast Forward to several days later. Wife has to move my truck one morning so I give her the keys. She then completes her task and leaves for work. I then get in my truck and the pantyhose that were under the seat are splayed across the steering wheel with a note asking who these belong too.
The wife didnt call me all day long and when i got home I didnt breach the matter as I had done no wrong. :eek: The wife never said another word so I didnt either.

Fast Forward to a decade later during a visit with Mom. We are telling the family tales of embarrasing events when my Mom laughs like a madman. It turns out that my wife had called my mom due to the pantyhose. My mom then explained to her that there was no other women involved just a pair of military shoes...lol. That is why my wife never said anything to me about them.
 
This thread reminds me of a line from Eastwood's movie Heartbreak Ridge.

Improvise, overcome and adapt.

That is why my wife never said anything to me about them.

LOL!! Eghad - Thanks for a good belly laugh! I needed that! :D :D
 
Eghad
...bypass the bureaucrats and get the requisitions filled to pay back KBR.
I think I know what you mean... :rolleyes:

I was in a Top Secret area within a Secret Area within a major Storage Depot... (Which now no longer exists... in France)

I was in a "Bastard" Company of Military Police (Un-attached or detached) with a "Special" Unit Mission and I saw an LT, and a couple of E-5's, taking brand new 1911's from a crate and writing down the SN's... and then...

...cutting them in half :eek: with a torch, right through the breach...

My company was still using WWI and WWII issued 1911's and I asked the Officer if he could work a trade with my armorer and destroy our old ones instead...

I was practically in tears!! :(

He said, very sympathetically, that the paperwork to make that happen, would take months, and cost considerably more money than the pistols were worth...

To the DD and DA... the pistols were only worth what they had paid for them in the 1940's... $88.00 each.

They proceeded to destroy a total of 500 of 'em...
It was easier than shipping them home...

BTW they did the same thing with M-1's and M-14's... :mad:

Now that's an E A R emema, pantyhose notwithstanding. ;)
 
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