The Apex kits can make the M&P triggers very nice. One guy that I shoot with has his down to 2.5 lbs with very little creep after it stacks. Another friend has his set up at 3.75 lbs and it breaks very cleanly. Check out the steel shoots at Black Creek that they have monthly near you.(Cold Harbor exit off 295).Would be a neat way to try out that new trigger job in competition.